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Posted By: dalehileman purple people eater - 02/19/06 06:15 PM
A recent post containing the expression, "commercial free space" puts me in mind of various linguistic conventions; especially in the use or disuse of punctuation, notably hyphens in adjectival compound modifiers. Although one convention eschews the hyphen, in some applications it is vital; eg, tech writing, law; science, medical

1. Commercial-free space: A space in which no commercials may be found

2. Commercial free space:

a. A variety of (1) not only free of commercials but containing no matter nor energy. However, it may be rented; hence, commercial. The reader may speculate that it must first be supplied with matter, if not energy. Then it is no longer commercial-free


b. A space free for the insertion of either commercial or non-commercial messages but which has a secondary commercial value; eg, it is part of a commercial site

3. Commercial free-space: An edition of the video game either requiring a membership fee or bearing commercial messages (perhaps off to one side, as with Google)

There are several more obscure interpretations of the phrase depending on where we place the hyphen. For instance,

4. Commercial-free-space: An adjective describing anything containing, or otherwise associated closely with (1) through (3). Its exact meaning would thus have to be clarified in text

But in an even more complex instance, consider the following:

1. One horned flying purple people eater: a single people eater having at least one horn, capable of flight, and purple in color


2. One-horned flying purple people eater: as above but confirmed to have only a single horn


3. One-horned flying-purple people eater: body or possibly wings (if capable of flight) of a particular hue referred to as "flying purple". Eats any kind of people


4. one-horned flying purple-people eater: flies, eats purple people; still only one horn




5. One-horned flying-purple-people eater: eats purple people but only those that fly. May not fly himself but probably does


6. One-horned-flying purple-people eater: one of his horns is detachable, and flies by itself. May or may not not have a second horn, but if he does, it isn't airborne. He himself may or not fly. Unspecified whether his dinner flies but of course should be purple
Posted By: belMarduk Re: purple people eater - 02/19/06 08:48 PM
Ah, if only I could get some people here in Montréal to understand the proper use of hyphens.

I don't know why it bugs me so.

There's this one client in particular that has trouble with the concept. When I read their adverstising, advisory letters, or any other written form of communication, I always wish they'd have a go-to person to correct their stuff.

I know the company is French but they deal with a lot of English manufacturers and many of their retail clients in Montréal are English, so you'd think they'd try to get it right. It's their image they are playing with.

(oops, bit of a rant there. I think it's because it's not just the hyphens they have problems with. Sometimes, words are spelled incorrectly and phrases are written with the wrong beat.)
Posted By: Faldage Re: purple people eater - 02/19/06 09:13 PM
Or either you can use commas, one:

One eyed, one horned, flying, purple, people eater.

On the other hand, no one with the tiniest bit of sense, when listening to the song had any picture in mind other than a beast that was purple, flew, had one eye and one horn, and ate people. This without the aid of hyphens or commas.
Posted By: Jackie Re: purple people eater - 02/20/06 01:25 AM
That was 'cause we could hear the hyphens.
Posted By: Faldage Re: purple people eater - 02/20/06 01:56 AM
Quote:

That was 'cause we could hear the hyphens.




You had the Victor Borge cover?
Posted By: Father Steve Re: purple people eater - 02/20/06 02:39 AM
Victor Borge's Phonetic Punctuation System
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: purple people eater - 02/20/06 12:09 PM
Oh, Fr. Steve, what memories that brings back. I listened to that over and over again, laughing and laughing. I gotta buy the CD.
Posted By: belMarduk Re: purple people eater - 02/20/06 01:49 PM
I agree, listening to Victor Borge was always such a treat. He took the stuffiness out of playing the piano and made it fun. An extremely witty man.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: purple people eater - 02/20/06 04:06 PM
Indeed the world needs more Victor Borges
Indeed the world needs more Victor Borges

His brother Jorge Luis Borges just isn't enough...
...and Senor Wenceses
z'alright.
tsorai
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