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Posted By: Casey-Canada GRY - 06/27/05 06:57 PM
My great grandchildren have it all over me!!! They know three English words that end in "gry". I can only get two: hungry & angry. Anybody know the third one?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: GRY - 06/27/05 07:01 PM
Hi, Casey. They're pulling your leg. This riddle is valid if it's written the right way....

Posted By: Rainmaker Re: GRY - 06/27/05 07:58 PM
Check it out here: http://www.fun-with-words.com/word_gry_angry_hungry.html

AnnaS - short enough URL? I don't know the 'short-url' technique...

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: GRY - 06/27/05 08:39 PM
oh, I feel so much better now.

thanks, R.

and I use http://tinyurl.com/

Posted By: Casey-Canada Re: GRY - 06/27/05 10:11 PM
Thanx all. As a fan of Abbott & Costello (who's on first etc.) I really should have caught on!!!

Posted By: tsuwm Re: short enough URL? - 06/27/05 10:42 PM
this led to another of our "arbitrary rules" which cause so much angst for some. when an URL reaches a length greater than the width of the standard message space, it results in a horizontal scroll bar and all of the posts in the thread become that width, making it all kind of a bother to read, scrolling back and forth.

and so the arbitrary rule (actually it's just a guideline since we can't enforce it) is that should you have a long URL you should submit it to snipurl.com or tinyurl.com.

note that your url wasn't all that long this time, Rm. you can tell when you've transgressed this rule by looking for the scrollbar at the bottom of the page. another way to cause this is by typing in one of those 1000-letter proteins.

Posted By: carpathian Re: GRY - 06/28/05 11:53 AM
short enough URL? I don't know the 'short-url' technique...

Splitting the url in two doesn't always work, Rainmaker. In fact, it never works for me.

The easiest, infallible solution [as tsuwm has said]:

Copy the url [using "Edit"] and then go to www.snipurl.com.

You will find that you don't even need to paste the url into the abbreviation box on the homepage of snipurl.com. [I have no idea how snipurl.com performs this magic.]

Just click the button and "Presto", your abbreviated url appears. Then copy and past the new url into your post here.






Posted By: of troy No stinkin' rules- (or the secret rules) - 06/28/05 03:27 PM
(see heading) we don't often talk about!
of course--tsuwm comment:
when an URL reaches a length greater than the width of the standard message space, it results in a horizontal scroll bar and all of the posts in the thread become that width, making it all kind of a bother to read, scrolling back and forth.

is so vague and incomplete! the message window size depends on your monitor, your settings, and you default window size.

Now in a perfect world, every one would have a 26 flat screen monitor, and every one would have perfect vision (and a single resolution size for the monitor) and everyone would have the same size default window for their browser.--Oh to live in a perfect world!

reality is, some of us have 13 inch monitors.. (and some have 26)--and all of us use a different resolution, and different browsers, and different window sizes.. and ..well.
--any Url over 50 characters is getting long.. 60 to 70 characters is the limit for small monitor users.
sample of 60 character length--
12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890

and the same differences about monitors also are true with our access; some still have dial up; and pay a 'land line use' fee for every minute they are on line and some of us have DSL and some have cable connections, and some have network access and even faster connections.

So when we respond in threaded mode, its easier to keep track of 'conversation thread' --since there are often multiple threads of conversation going on at once-- if a word or two from the post we are resonding to is include in the new post. --this is ignored if we are responding to last post in a thread.

Many of us have evolved into a 'protocal' of "read flat" --which is how i read each thread--
but respond 'threaded' (this post is a 'continuation' of tsuwm's, and if you toggle into the threaded mode, you can see that.)

--To make it easier to read flat--i have included a quote (and we almost never use the quote code) and highlighted it in a color blue, for example, to help everyone follow the 'thread of my conversation'

(red is the shortest color name to type, but blue is the prefered for quotes--lazyness.. (green is 2 extra keystrokes!)

there are no 'rules' about what color you should use. but red always seems like a correction.(and its used to note edits for just that reason!) If you want to color quotes green or purple, or some other color, (even Yellow!) you can. but all those extra key strokes add up!

there are links to discussion about all these 'non-rule' rules in the I & A section. they exist just to make it easier for everyone to understand what is going on.. (and to prevent misunderstandings)

in one of the I & A thread, Jackie made the point that a place like this is like a place of employment.. when you first come here, you enter a place where many people 'know' each other, and there are many 'insider' jokes that you don't understand at first.. but eventually, you catch on, and you too, become an insider..

But right from the first, you have every right to be here and to join in. and once you do, all the insiders will treat you as an insider too--just as they usually do at work.

there are several links in I & A that are recommended for newcomers. but like the FAQ, they are not required (just recommended) reading.

no one has to follow the generally established protocals. they are just that--general established -if you know better ways to navigate, or to increase the general clarity here.. well, let us know. If your idea is generally percieved as better, it will catch on.. if not, it won't!

and if you have a personal style differs, we'll get used to it.
one poster generally uses *(word)* instead of the bold command (*(word)* works as bold in most Word Processing programs to bold a word.) Most of us don't follow this style.. but no one objects.



But sometimes, some of us post in green just because it's such a pretty color [halo emoticon]

Posted By: Jackie Re: coloring - 06/28/05 03:51 PM
I don't use blue because I'm lazy, Helen. (That is, I AM lazy, but that has nothing to do with this!) I use blue most often simply because it's my favorite color. Occasionally I slip off and use the others, for varying reasons. If I use red it's usually to call attention to something.

I have been a little afraid of doing this for fear of being chastised for promoting a commercial site, but I'll go ahead now. It is, after all, a freebie. It's a handy little gadget called Typeitin: you can program your own personalized buttons, so that with two clicks (one to bring up the program, the other to "push" the button), you can have, as I do, any of the color codes appear wherever your cursor is.
http://www.wavget.com/typeitin.html

Posted By: of troy Re: coloring - 06/28/05 04:03 PM
purple is my favorite color.. but i am lazy--and blue is the shortest (save for red) colorname to type. and so i use blue much more often than purple..

but i wear purple, and red hats, --oh never mind that is total different topic!

> some of us post in green

and some of us used to post in green if quoting from a post but blue if quoting from another (external) source... I still do the latter always, but have dropped '[gree n]' in favour of '>' to save 14 keystrokes, nothing to do with lousy basketball teams :)

Posted By: Faldage Re: Blue/green - 06/28/05 09:37 PM
I, on the other hand, used to use blue when I was quoting a previous post and green for external quotes. Then I discovered that Dr Bill couldn't read the blue very well so I switched to italics.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Blue/green - 06/28/05 09:39 PM
I, on still another other hand, used to use purple for.. but why am I bothering to state the obvious?!
- ron o.

Posted By: Father Steve Re: coloring - 06/29/05 03:31 AM
"I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday." ~G. K. Chesterton

Posted By: Bingley Re: No stinkin' rules- (or the secret rules) - 06/29/05 04:36 AM
Dear me, most of these subtleties of usage have passed me by. I quite regularly use the quote tag to quote someone. If I need to quote more than one person to set the context for my remarks then I generally colour code to differentiate between them.

Helen, you didn't mention the use of white for material not everyone may wish to read immediately (because it's the answer to a puzzle or is an aside).



Bingley
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