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Posted By: angelnanc8 Smack-dab - 04/28/04 11:53 AM
I am currently writing a local history book for our fourth graders and have employed the expression "smack-dab in the middle" in the text.

I can find the definition...but not the origin of this phrase. Does anyone know the origin?
My dictionary simply says "slang for directly or squarely".


Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Smack-dab - 04/28/04 12:02 PM
Welcome aBoard, angelnanc, especially with such an iteresting question.

Over here in the UK, we say "slap-bang" in the middle - meaning precisely the same as the definition that you give.

I have no idea of its derivation, but personally associate it with the air raids of the Second World War, when bombs were said to drop, "slap-bang" in the middle of a factory, or housing estate or whatever. If this is where it started, the derivation is fairly clear, I think.

Posted By: dxb Re: Smack-dab - 04/28/04 01:24 PM
Well Rhuby, I would have said the same as you, but looking at the Cambridge and the OED, *they say that the expression slap-bang is indicative of excessive and reckless speed rather than exact positioning whereas smack-dab is given in the Cambridge as ‘straight or directly’. No derivation is given for either term but the first usage of slap-bang recorded in the OED is given as 1833.

There is also reference, dated as 1785, to a slap-bang shop. A squalid eating-place where you were required to put down your money on the counter at time of placing the order. I wonder if they sold the first Big-Macs .


Posted By: Capfka Re: Smack-dab - 04/29/04 11:27 AM
I would have thought that a slap-bang shop was somewhere where you might find a Conservative cabinet minister after hours ...

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Smack-bang shop - 04/29/04 12:37 PM
oh, my

Posted By: shanks Re: Smack-dab - 04/29/04 04:21 PM
I would have thought that a slap-bang shop was somewhere where you might find a Conservative cabinet minister after hours ...

And I thought they called 'em Clubs. Or maybe that's only at St James'...

Posted By: dxb Re: Smack-dab - 04/29/04 04:38 PM
You might get an Edwina Curry there perhaps?

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Smack-dab - 04/30/04 10:02 AM


(It would be a major attraction, without a doubt)

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