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Posted By: rav @ - 04/17/03 09:27 AM
how do you call the @ symbol?? i used to call it "monkey" (in polish of course), because i was taught to call it so. but my brother, who is studying informatics, told me yesterday that & should be called "monkey" and @ - "elephant's ear" any comments on that?

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: @ - 04/17/03 09:32 AM
I call it the "at" sign, but you might want to do a search, I think we #'ed this one over a little while back...

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Only one way I know of... - 04/17/03 11:02 AM

"Here boy! Here boy!"

No, I've always called it the at-sign.

k


Posted By: wofahulicodoc to each his own - 04/17/03 11:28 AM
Here's the - better make that "a" - previous discussion of @:

http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=14518

It also mentions a few other non-alphanumeric symbols.
Posted By: of troy Re: @ - 04/17/03 11:42 AM
For me,
@ is the AT symbol (first learned in math class, (how much would you need to purchace a 3 lb bag of apples if they sell 1lb. @ 73cent..(and you use the word at when you see the symbol)

# was the number symbol, but the telephone company instist on calling it a "pound" symbol, and i have learned here it is also called Octothorp!

$ US dollar symbol

% Percent symbol

^ carot --use as accent mark, and in Math (excel programing) to indicate an exponent. In editing, it could mean "insert"

& Ampersand -is the name, and it "reads" as and, ie, Johnson & Sons= Johnson and Sons. this was discussed, it might come from a rote teaching style, as
A as in apple
b as in boy
etc,
with the symbol being
& as per AND,

* Atrerix (from the latin for star, a little star)

( Parens -- a pair ( ) would be parenthesis with various uses in text and Math

| is the Pipe symbol..and it is used in Programing.

: colon and ; semi -colon...

< and > are either arrow points (pointers) or greater than/less than symbols... depending on whether its is text or numbers..

? is technically an interogitive-- but i never call it that... it is a question mark

! is an exclamation mark

[ ] are brackets,
{ } are braces!

/ \ are slashes,

- - are dashes!

~ is a tilde

there are one or two others on a standard keyboard, and many more in the Character set...

Posted By: vika Re: to each his own - 04/17/03 11:45 AM
interesting, how different nations see @ symbol. I gather, it's "arroba" in Spanish, "sobaka" - a dog among Russian e-mail users, "snail" in Sweden (if I remember correctly)

Posted By: maahey Re: @ - 04/17/03 12:06 PM
I don't know if you bargained for so many words, rav, but here you go.....

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/whereat.htm

Quinion mentions, 'at the price of'. In a conversation with my accountant some years back, it was revealed to me that in trade and business circles in India, this symbol is expanded as, 'at the rate of'. Which in turn, takes my mind to something that Nehru once said, (I can't remember the exact quote) about how, in India, the old never gets replaced by the new; the old always co-exists with the new harmoniously.

Edit:
Would you believe, there is yet another one!! This seems to be the most current of them all - 'atmark'.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: @ - 04/17/03 12:23 PM
# was the number symbol, but the telephone company instist on calling it a "pound" symbol, and i have learned here it is also called Octothorp!

also, "hash", no?


Posted By: wofahulicodoc symbol things for symbol people - 04/17/03 12:41 PM
see also http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=36166

octothorp
number sign
sharp
pound
tic-tac-toe
hash mark

...and there are supposed to be a couple more, as I recall (see Harvard Magazine , ca. 1977?)

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: @ - 04/17/03 12:53 PM

At is also called "commercial at" (but I actually didn't know that till quite recently -- read it somewhere).

Synonyms for the forward slash (/): virgule, solidus, separatrix, oblique stroke.

Not aware of alternate nomenclature for the backslash (\).

The pipe symbol (|) is also called a vertical bar or just 'bar'.


k



Posted By: wofahulicodoc confusion thrice confounded - 04/17/03 04:29 PM
Synonyms for the forward slash (/): virgule...

Somewhere I got the idea that a virgule was a comma, just like the French word


Posted By: Jackie Re: separatrix - 04/17/03 05:05 PM
You gotta be kiddin' me! Is that a real word? That sounds like a name for a female arbitration judge.

Posted By: sjm Re: @ - 04/17/03 07:19 PM
>$ US dollar symbol


Here it is just known as the dollar symbol, and I suspect that it is yclept similarly in Australia, Fiji, Grenada, Hong Kong, Jamaica, Liberia, Montserrat, Namibia, Singapore, Taiwan, Trinidad and Tobago, and Zimbabwe, to name a few. (I'm not sure about the loonie)

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: virgule separatrix - 04/18/03 09:52 PM
wofa, yeah, virgula means comma in Portuguese, too. Go figger.

Jackie, to quote you back to your own se'f: come here. I got something for you.

Posted By: JohnHawaii Re: & - 04/21/03 12:16 AM
I believe this information on the ampersand is slightly more accurate:
"a corruption of and (&) per se and, which literally means "(the character) & by itself (is the word) and." The symbol & is derived from the ligature of ET or et, which is the Latin word for "and."

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: & - 04/21/03 12:35 AM
cool.



et'

Posted By: wofahulicodoc What's in a name? - 04/21/03 12:59 AM
"a corruption of and (&) per se and, which literally means "(the character) & by itself (is the word) and."

Not Ampere's "and" ?

Or is that just another Urban Myth (the urb in question here being eighteenth-century Paris) and the symbol has really been around, and so named, for much longer ?

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: What's in a name? - 04/21/03 03:45 AM
What's in a name? A lot!

et call home... See?



Posted By: wow Re: @ - 04/21/03 01:47 PM
^ carot --use as accent mark, and in Math (excel programing) to indicate an exponent. In editing, it could mean "insert"
Would that be caret Helen?
Now, I admit I made an error in Info&Annouce calling the day after Easter "Evacuation Day" when in actual fact it should have been Patriots Day! It's also the day the 26+ mile Boston Marathon is run. Decent weather today, about 60 and cloudy ... runners should do well.
Evacuation Day is March 17! Oooops? !!


Posted By: Bingley Re: @ - 04/22/03 03:14 AM
What does Evacuation Day commemorate? Who was evacuated from where?

Bingley
Posted By: rav Re: @ - 04/22/03 06:28 AM
miukumauku yees.. that's much more eerr.. poetic than monkey :))

Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: @ - 04/22/03 11:41 AM
What does Evacuation Day commemorate?

History was never my strong point, but I believe the British left Boston on a March 17, after they awoke that fine morning to find Colonial cannon facing them...having been quietly brought in and placed during the night. It seemed to be the prudent move at the time, I'm sure...



Posted By: Capfka Re: @ - 04/22/03 12:43 PM
Wofu, your history was spot on. Here's a url that confirms it!

http://www.patriotresource.com/events/bostonevac.html

They learned from the experience, of course, and have since snuck out of several places in their socks with practiced precision!

Posted By: TEd Remington ligature of ET - 04/23/03 09:30 AM
Someone garroted the poor little tyke? I assume it was his worried mother, who said, "When we find him I'm just gonna STRANGLE him!"

Posted By: Father Steve Evacuation Day - 04/26/03 10:02 PM
Evacuation Day is a proper feast little noted outside of the Irish population of Boston, Massachusetts. It commemorates the departure of English troops (and loyalist families) from Boston in 1776. General William Howe led the evacuation, as the city was surrounded by Continental forces and break-out was unlikely. As the day falls on the Feast of Blessed Patrick of Ireland, there is a certain blurring of events remembered, which may also be due to the beer.


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