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Posted By: Kiran Who loves you more? - 03/17/03 12:08 PM
Hi All,

As said earlier you will have a tough time with me, solving my silly doubts.

I know the below two sentences have different meanings but couldn't sort it out. So when in doubt, go for AWAD talk hahaha.

1. He loves you more than I.
2. He loves you more than me.

How should the above sentences be interpreted?

Thanks in Advance,
Kiran

Posted By: Bean Re: Who loves you more? - 03/17/03 12:14 PM
Both sentences have bits left out.

Read #1 as "He loves you more than I (do)." That is, he loves you more than I love you.

Read #2 as "He loves you more than (he loves) me."

I guess when you use the subject form of the first person singular pronoun (I), you are comparing that subject (I) with the only other subject pronoun in the sentence (he). When you use the object version of the first person singular pronoun (me) you are comparing it with the only other object in the sentence (you). Does that help?

Posted By: Capfka Re: Who loves you more? - 03/17/03 12:39 PM
Yeah. Wot she said.

- Pfranz
Posted By: Faldage Re: Who loves you more? - 03/17/03 01:53 PM
What Bean says is exactly what you would do if you were to follow the proper rules of English, and is what you should do in class or if you are writing formally.

In real life, however, you will rarely here 1 all by itself. When you do hear 1 it will often be something like He loves you more than I ever could. The use of case markers in English is a dying art and you will often hear 2 used to mean 1. It is probably best to clear up the ambiguity by supplying the missing portions as supplied by Bean.

Posted By: wwh Re: Who loves you more? - 03/17/03 02:25 PM
Sinc this is a word site, the word for "leaving bits out"
is ellipsis. It has to be used sparingly, though, sinde it
may lead to ambiguity, or to misunderstanding.

Posted By: Capfka Re: Who loves you more? - 03/17/03 03:11 PM
Bill, my boy, some people can be confusing no matter how much they put in. I speak from experience ...

- Pfranz
Posted By: musick Who loves you, baby? - 03/17/03 05:34 PM
Pfranz, ya beat me to it!

It has to be used sparingly, though, since it may lead to ambiguity, or to misunderstanding.

Is there something that I could use that would insure ambiguity but guard against misunderstanding? [can o'worms e]

Posted By: Faldage Re: Who loves you, baby? - 03/17/03 05:40 PM
insure ambiguity but guard against misunderstanding?

Maybe yes, maybe no. If you choose your target carefully you might be able to ensure misunderstanding and guard against ambiguity but.

Posted By: consuelo Re: Who loves you, baby? - 03/18/03 06:15 PM
Is there something that I could use that would insure ambiguity but guard against misunderstanding? [can o'worms e]

ROTFLMFAO
Just like a guy to want his wormcake and eat it too

Moose, all ya have to do is open yer mouth and yer halfway there!


Posted By: Bingley Re: Who loves you, baby? - 03/19/03 04:52 AM
In reply to:

Is there something that I could use that would insure ambiguity but guard against misunderstanding?


How much do you want to insure the ambiguity for, and at what level of misunderstanding would the insurance company have to pay out?

Bingley

Posted By: RubyRed Re: Who loves you, baby? - 03/21/03 05:39 AM
>Is there something that I could use that would insure ambiguity but guard against misunderstanding? [can o'worms e]<

I believe the government has already perfected this particular art.....

(edited to add this is in NO WAY a slur against our government.....of which I am gainfully employed)


Posted By: AnnaStrophic "our" government - 03/21/03 02:46 PM
Been a while since I've had a chance to pick a nit.... [rubbing-hands]

Who's our?

Posted By: musick Re: "our" government - 03/21/03 05:26 PM
Yeah, what she said!

Posted By: Coffeebean Re: "our" government - 03/21/03 05:42 PM
Run, Ruby, run!

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: "our" government - 03/21/03 06:31 PM
Who's our?

why not whose our?

Posted By: Faldage Re: "our" government - 03/21/03 06:35 PM
We know whose our, RubyRed's our.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: "our" government - 03/21/03 06:39 PM
aw, Ruby has always seemed sweet to me...

Posted By: musick Whiling the our's away - 03/21/03 07:01 PM
Picking a nit isn't necessarily the same as complaining.

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