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Posted By: suededevil Precede/ Transcend - 02/16/03 03:25 AM
could anyone give some model sentences to give me more carified understanding and concept about these two words?

Posted By: wwh Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/16/03 03:44 AM
Precede means to go first, in time or place. My older brother preceded me into the world.
Courage and perseverance can enable us to transcend the obstacles that life puts in our path.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/16/03 02:15 PM
Transcend would mean to rise above.

Posted By: Capfka Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 09:21 AM
Faldo, you never cease to amaze me!

- Pfranz
Posted By: wwh Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 01:49 PM
Dear Faldage: Good thing you don't run an airline. Your transatlantic flights would be
a big disappointment.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 01:58 PM
What?

From AHD4:


transcend

3. To exist above and independent of (material experience or the universe):


It's from Latin trans- + scandere, to climb.

Whadda yer transatlantic flights do, Dr Bill, take the surface route?

Posted By: wwh Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 03:02 PM
Looks as though AHD didn't know what "trans" meant. My airline would get across the ocean,
yours apparently would not.

Posted By: wow Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 03:18 PM
As was once commented concerning Virgin Airline:
"Why would you name an airline for someone known for not going 'all the way'?"

Posted By: Faldage Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 03:24 PM
My airline would get across the ocean

Oh, we make it across all right. We just don't get wet doing it.

Posted By: wwh Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 03:28 PM
Dear Faldage: Then you do know what "trans-" means. Going up is not enough, one must
also go across, past the obstacle.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/17/03 03:35 PM
one must also go across, past the obstacle.

And one goes above it to do so. The important element in transcending is the getting above. Trans can also mean through. Over can have the meaning of crossing above. Get over it.

Posted By: musick Procedure - 02/17/03 03:51 PM
Using wow's context you guys' seem to be talking about either teasing or frustration, I'm not sure...

Posted By: consuelo Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/18/03 04:35 AM
The preceding posts by wwh and Faldage could be said to transcend good manners. Oh, behave!

Posted By: suededevil Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/18/03 06:27 AM
I am now so confused as u guys have even more complicated ellaboration

Posted By: dxb Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/18/03 02:39 PM
I am now so confused as u guys have even more complicated ellaboration

They are joking with each other and that is confusing you. Ignore them.

These ideas from the first replies are what you need to think about.

Precede means to go first, in time or place. "My older brother preceded me into the world."

"Courage and perseverance can enable us to transcend the obstacles that life puts in our path."


Transcend in this sense, does mean to rise above. I would say that it is nearly always used figuratively like this. It is not usual to say something like: “The younger climber transcended the older one on the mountainside”, or: “The bigger aircraft transcended the smaller during their flight.”

By the way - do not rely on the spell checker on this board! It is misleading.


Posted By: musick Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/18/03 03:07 PM
They are joking with each other and that is confusing you. Ignore them.

A lotta help you are...

...do not rely on the spell checker on this board! It is misleading.

You can lead a horse to water but...

Posted By: dxb Re: Precede/ Transcend - 02/18/03 03:13 PM
Just trying to be straightforward so as not to promote further confusion.

Posted By: musick Transcendental - 02/18/03 03:35 PM
That explains my sarcasm, I guess. I'll get over it.

I just *hate to see our Enigma get a bad rap. (pardon my spelling)

Posted By: dxb Re: Transcendental - 02/18/03 03:57 PM
Ænigma is delightfully whimsical but it is also a trap set for the feet of the unwary.

Determined to ignore all sarcasm, irony and circumlocution. Strange that Ænigma should be quite happy with 'circumlocution', but feel that 'unwary' should be spelt 'unwelcome'.

Posted By: wwh Re: Transcendental - 02/18/03 04:07 PM
Sometimes the word "transcendental" can be mystifying (sort of a pun).
transcendentalism
n.
5< 18th-c. Ger transcendentalismus: see prec. & 3ISM6
1 any of various philosophies that propose to discover the nature of reality by investigating the process of thought rather than the objects of sense experience: the philosophies of Kant, Hegel, and Fichte are examples of transcendentalism
>2 by extension, the philosophical ideas of Emerson and some other 19th-cent. New Englanders, based on a search for reality through spiritual intuition
3 popularly, any obscure, visionary, or idealistic thought
tran#scen[den4tal[ist
n., adj.


Posted By: Faldage Re: Transcendentalism - 02/18/03 04:13 PM
So-called for its belief in "rising above" the material.

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