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Posted By: Gasman Incentive - 11/13/02 09:26 PM
What is the grammatically correct word from incentive? Incent? Incentivize? Help

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Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Incentive - 11/13/02 09:33 PM
Do you mean the verb form?

Posted By: wwh Re: Incentive - 11/13/02 09:45 PM
I found 'incentivise" in over a dozen sites, but no clue as to its acceptability.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Incentive - 11/13/02 11:37 PM
neither can be found in OED2+; both have been accepted by AHD4 (and are very recent coinages). take your pick.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 12:26 AM
Why not just "provide an incentive" or something like that rather than verbing the noun?

I'm just askin'...

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 12:39 AM
oops... by take your pick I meant "accept or don't."

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 01:04 AM
ewww, incentivise has no beauty...

Posted By: wwh Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 01:12 AM
Dear etaoin: Suppose it was achieved by gift of a rarely seen portrait of a dead president?

Posted By: sjm Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 01:43 AM
Suppose it was achieved by gift of a rarely seen portrait of a dead president?


I don't Bill, I don't find
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F6CB46172

any sort of incentive at all.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 01:46 AM
sorry, you guys lost me on this one. I'm going to bed...


Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 02:44 AM
motive :: motivate

incentive :: incentivate

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 08:30 AM
Whoa! To provide an incentive could be to reward or even to bribe.

I'm not fighting exactly the verbing of incentive--just offering up other possibilities.

I actually like the ring of incentivate.
Like it much better than incentivise.
Posted By: Faldage Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 10:57 AM
Reward, to me implies an after-the-fact transaction with no necessary before-the-fact component to it. I would hope I wouldn't have to explain to you why bribe doesn't work. Any of the words based on incentive could be used in a situation where the incentive is an absence of a negative as easily as a presence of a positive. For example, "Do what I say and I won't remove your kneecaps." That would tend to incent me.

Posted By: dxb Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 11:10 AM
It would incense me.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 11:19 AM
It would incense me.

That, too. I thought there might be a connection, but, no. Incense comes from incendere, to set on fire. Incent from incinere, to sing, sound.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 12:14 PM
incendere, to set on fire. Incent from incinere, to sing, sound.

ooh, I like this. there is a great piece of music hidden in here...

Posted By: Jackie Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 01:06 PM
Welcome to you, Gasman.
I wish I had something enlightening to add to the marvelous info. above, but I'm afraid this time I'm just jabbering.
Sweet WO'N, good likeness to the word motivate. I have to say that Dr. Bill's post and sjm's response (you always catch on to things, don't you?) were so incomprehensible to me that I just passed right on under them--until I read WW's post and Faldage's response. Faldage, you and dxb both beat me to what I woulda said if I'd gotten here in time! Yes, a reward is after the fact. However, I think the offer of a reward can be an incentive. (Hey--could a deterrent to doing something be a decentive? You know, like the music at the beginning of a church service is the introit and the music at the end is the detroit?)
[dreamy-eyed]Incinere...yes, eta--think of miserere. But this would have to be happy music.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 01:16 PM
I actually was thinking of the two words: incendere and incinere juxtaposed. fiery singing...

Posted By: Jackie Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 01:49 PM
Ooh! Yeah!

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Incentive - 11/14/02 03:38 PM
>(Hey--could a deterrent to doing something be a decentive?)

I suppose it could, but we already have disincentive, which seems more... decentive.

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Incentive - 11/15/02 02:34 AM
>(Hey--could a deterrent to doing something be a decentive?)

Wouldn't that have to be deincentive like reincentive or disincentive? Although I think recentive has a certain ring to it. So if you were really remotivated and had a lot of recentive would you then be recentful? Or if you couldn't get remotivated would you resent yourself for your lack of recentive? Or, if you were recently recentive but lost your motivation would you then harbor recent resentment for your lack of recentfulness? And now I think I need to call in milum to help sort this all out for me!

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Incentive - 11/15/02 02:53 AM
I think this is all getting a bit anally incentive, don't you?



Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Incentive - 11/15/02 12:10 PM
fiery singing - would this make you in-cante-scent?

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Incentive - 12/12/02 03:05 PM
I really am disincented to bring this back to the top, but I received this from a subscriber today and offer it as an example of corporate-speak.

ADCannounce wrote:

> This exciting new
> program is designed to motivate and incent employees for their continued
> commitment and determination to return ADC to growth and profitability.


(personally, I'm incensed when I receive crappola such as this.. -ron)
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Incent - 12/12/02 03:12 PM
(personally, I'm incensed when I receive crappola such as this..)...

Me, too.. Thanks for sharing, ron..

Posted By: mjw Re: Incentive - 12/12/02 05:34 PM
Of the suggestions that have been made, "incent" seems to grate less on the ear. Of course, you could always use "motivate", though it doesn't seem to carry the same implication of a specific incentive being given for achieving whatever the goal is. For example, you can motivate someone with supportive words, but to really get a sales rep to do anything, you need to incent them with a nice, fat, monetary carrot.

Mark Waddington
Posted By: dxb Re: Incentive - 12/13/02 07:29 AM
program is designed to motivate and incent employees for their continued
> commitment and determination to return ADC to growth and profitability.


At least it sounds preferable to a redundancy programme - the usual response to a drop in profitability.


Posted By: tsuwm Re: Incentive - 12/13/02 01:43 PM
>preferable to a redundancy programme

oh, ADC did that first, reduntantly even!

Posted By: dxb Re: Incentive - 12/13/02 03:03 PM
I shoulda guessed!

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