what does the "red" add to this? as a teacher in these times, I guess I'd better know...

Redtrucidation wasn't in OneLook at all. Trucidation was listed six times, the first source showing it as being obsolete.

So I wonder: Who pulled this obsolete noun out of the grave? And a grisly one at that...

hahaha! I am so slow.... haha

ah, yes, trucidation...

grisly is a good word for it.

In reply to:

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For URL to find more such words:http://www.spizzquiz.net/index.html

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it all becomes clearer now. man, somebody's got a lot of free time, and I don't mean you, Bill.

Hansardize, v.(HAN-sir-dize):
Wait for page to finish loading, then click word to hear it pronounced

See The Story:
or
Guess the definition:

(Click definition below and see if you're correct)

1.To prove a person to have formerly expressed a
different view.

Both The New York Times and The Washington Post
emphatically hansardized President Bush on their front
pages Thursday. The two papers explained details of
two loans totalling $180,375 with below-prime rates
that Harken Energy extended to the President in 1986
and 1988. Bush is now condemning such loans

OK, so now I know what "Hansardize" means, but damned if I can find its origin.

I found that "Hansard" publishes debates in Canadian government (can't remember correct title)
but so far no clue as to how it came to mean proving somebody is changing their story.

And please don't get truculent with me about "red" goofup.

Hansard's appears to be a Commonwealth tradition. The Mother of Parliaments is minuted by Hansard's and so it seems are many of her bastard spawn, including, at the least, Canada and New Zealand.

maybe here:

http://www.hansard.act.gov.au/hansard/faq.htm

and I'm certainly non-truculent! in fact, I'm tractorulent!

Dear etaoin: I have trouble reading a lot of text like that. But with your encouragement
I got as far as this:
he publication of Hansard assists people to interpret not only the 'letter' but also the 'spirit' of the law. For instance, by
referring to Hansard, the courts are able to clarify what legislators meant in the wording of a particular statute (legislation passed
in the Assembly). Hansard helps to make politicians accountable. They know their every word will be recorded and may be
referred to by their political opponents or by members of the public or the media. Hansard records for posterity the activities of
the legislature, and reflects attitudes to significant issues of the day and the changing values and mores of society.

I was more careful with my brackets this time.

yep! I think that hits the nail on the head!

I found it to be not too reader-friendly as well. maybe you can boost the font size in your browser? Mozilla and Explorer do that fairly easily, and Netscape allows you to do it in your preferences, I believe. pardon the pun, but it might be worth looking into...
I use Mozilla and do it frequently on text-heavy sites.

Dear etaoin: Netscape 4.7 has view Increase font. I also have six inch magnifier in circular
fluoresent held by jointed arm hitched to desk. But I still have trouble with long paragraphs.
I still think that "Hansardize" is a bit stinky, unless it was for Canadian readers. I doubt
many US readers would know it, Or UK either.

Dear Bill: glad to know about Netscape. maybe someday computers will feel(and read) more like books, and then a lot of text won't be so onerous.
Well, I think journalists like to strut their stuff once in a while, and throw out words that very few people know. Unfortunately, most folks aren't going to run to the dictionary or the web to figure things out, they'll just skip over them. but we faithful are here, keeping the language alive!

Dear etaoin: I'm all for journalists using uncommon words, when they do an uncommon
job of putting a whole sentence into one word that can be found in the dictionary.
But when it takes a computer search to find the term, that's going too far, and
when it is a foreign term, that's superegregiousness.

ah, but we both rooted it out, didn't we?

Dear etaoin: I have discovered that some of the words at the bottom of the
Sphizzerinctum list give error message "Not found". Starting at the bottom,
I have made a list of them. Here are four of them for you to test your searching
skills on:

onsaw
chunnering
bugiard
caffeic (looks easy)

P.S. chunnering and caffeic were easy. I struck out on "onsaw" (name of character in a movie!)
and "bugiard". (something in Italian dialect"!

onsaw is eluding me, too, though I've run into a couple of references in airline traffic control...?
I don't think we want to know what "bugiard" means...
I'll take some time later to continue the digging, but I really should be out building my shed right now...

Don't let your shed "bugiard" you.

my close personal friend Kevin Johnson once confessed to me that he gets most of his fodder for his spizz page browsing through the pages of the OED, and yes, many of the words he culls therefrom are obscure to the point of obsolescence. let's try that premise with 'onsaw' and 'bugiard'.

onsaw [Obs.] [late OE. onsagu, f. ON-1 1 + sagu, saying, SAW.]

A charge against a person, an accusation; reproach, opprobrious language.

bugiard [Obs.] [ad. It. bugiardo.]

A liar.



I'm afraid this will be a recurring theme with the spizz site.

Dear tsuwm: Are his "quotes" then pnony?

aw, that's just sad.

I hadn't gone to the OED yet because my hands were dirty...

oh well...

> still think that "Hansardize" is a bit stinky, unless it was for Canadian readers. I doubt
many US readers would know it, Or UK either.

Au contraire, I think that most Commonwealth readers would know what Hansardize meant, since it seems that most Commonwealth parliaments are minuted by Hansard's. If India's Parliament is, then one-quarter of the world's population lives in a country familiar with Hansard's

>Are his "quotes" then pnony?

kevin takes actual, topical news stories and substitutes in his word for the day, hopefully capturing the appropriate sense (he's been known to blow one occasionally). so, yes, the quotes are... a bit disingenuous? many of his words cry out forlornly for current usage and he often has to guess at proper context. here, e.g., is the most recent citation for onsaw:

1300 Fals it was, al Þair onsaw.

Thanks, tsuwm. It doesn't spoil the fun. I was really baffled, thionking he must have
some superdeluxe search engine to find so many obscure words actually used.

so now, Kevin has been Hansardized...