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Posted By: Rubrick New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 04:58 PM
My usual Bank Holiday Monday routine and I was relaxing in bed with a quiz book and a mug of joe. One of the 'harder' questions I got (according to the book) was If someone from Australia is an Australian, then what is someone from New Zealand called?

I said New Zealander and got it wrong (although I'm crying foul) and the correct answer made no sense to me, at all, when I read it. So before revealing what was the 'correct' answer I'll throw it out to the forum. Perhaps this is the time to find out something I never knew.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 05:07 PM
I learned "Zilder" here, but Max and CapK were probably pulling the wool (ahem)....

post-edit: Faldage did one of those anal searches of the annals and discovered that it was indeed Jackie who used the word Zilder for the first time, not either of our esteemed Kiwis. Nice coinage, Jackie!
Posted By: Jackie Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 05:45 PM
Well, my book BY a New Zealander calls them New Zealanders, so I'm not real sure what else to say! My next guess would be New Zealandans. Surely the book wouldn't have meant Aotearoans or Kiwis!?

Posted By: Rubrick Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 05:51 PM
Okay, I won't wait for the Antipodeans to wake up so I'll give you the answer now. It's the very disappointing New Zealand.

I told you that it made no sense. Is it grammatically correct? I don't think so.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 05:52 PM
It's gotta be a typo.

Posted By: Rubrick Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 05:58 PM
It's gotta be a typo.

Ah, if only it were that easy. Nope. There was an editor's note saying that it wasn't New Zealander!!!

The plot thicketh.....

Posted By: Faldage Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 06:05 PM
I woulda said New Zealish but then I would say that water is wet, so who am I to say?

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 09:14 PM
It's maybe a typo. People from New Zealand are, quite definitely, New Zealanders. However, in "Nationality" on my passport, it has "New Zealand". Since I've never held another nationality, I don't know whether this is just a short hand or not.

So ... it could be right, I guess. But I don't think so.

Posted By: Angel Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/01/02 09:22 PM
However, in "Nationality" on my passport, it has "New Zealand".

This is correct CK. Nationality refers to the nation you belong to by origin, birth, or naturalization. Not what a person from that country calls themselves. When I cross the border into Canada and am asked my nationality, I answer "U.S.". I don't say "American". I haven't been corrected on this yet, and I cross this international border weekly.

Posted By: Jackie Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/02/02 12:13 AM
It's the very disappointing New Zealand.
Well, that's flat ridiculous--nobody could be a New Zealand.
(Augh, I can't stand it---ER!)



Posted By: modestgoddess Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/02/02 03:54 AM
But but but Angel....do you really expect a border guard to be able to correct you on such a fine linguistic point?! [snob-e] (O dear, I can hear all the border guards blowing raspberries at me from here!)

I only ask because whenever I cross the border and get asked my nationality, I say, "Canadian" - and they've never corrected me, either.

I would always answer "Canadian" if asked my nationality; if asked my country of origin, I would answer "Canada." To me, the former question begs for an adjectival answer, and the latter for a noun.

Posted By: stales Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/02/02 08:45 AM
> ...what is someone from New Zealand called?

Umm

David?

Max?

CapK?

etc.

All of which are technically more correct than "New Zealand". It may not be a typo in that guy's book - but you can bet it was a typo in the book he got it from.

What a bunchacrap. If 3 million of them think they're New Zealanders - then they're New Zealanders.

So, is a person from Zealand a Zealand? Nope - they're Zealanders.

Rubie - tell the guy stales reckons he's a cretin.

stales


Posted By: Max Quordlepleen . - 04/02/02 09:34 AM
Posted By: Rubrick Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/02/02 02:03 PM
However, in "Nationality" on my passport, it has "New Zealand". Since I've never held another nationality, I don't know whether this is just a short hand or not.

On mine it has 'British Citizen' which can be shortened to 'British'. I'm beginning to suspect that 'New Zealand' may be correct - despite what people say or think.

Question: What do you call people from the Greek island of Lesbos? Lesbosians Hands up all those who thought of something else?

Posted By: wow Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/02/02 09:07 PM
Talk about coinkydinks -- my crossword this morning had the clue "Native of New Zealand" and the answer was Maori!

Do I get a prize ? Or is the operative clue-word Native?

(Sigh - I never win anything she muttered sipping her sundown glass of whine.)

Posted By: Angel Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/03/02 01:19 AM
Do I get a prize ?...(Sigh - I never win anything she muttered sipping her sundown glass of whine.)

But wow, you ARE our prize! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted By: Max Quordlepleen . - 04/03/02 04:58 AM
Posted By: Rubrick Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/03/02 12:39 PM
Don't waver, Rubrick. The question as posted was:
If someone from Australia is an Australian, then what is someone from New Zealand called?

If someone from Australia is called an Australian, then someone from New Zealand is a New Zealander. If you
were to say someone from Australia is Australian, then some from New Zealand possibly would be New
Zealand.


D'oh! This is true. That's what I should have said!! Oh, and to think that I wasted everyone's time and made them all clock up extra posts through my slipshod interrogative statement!

Posted By: Jackie Re: New Zealander - not quite!! - 04/03/02 02:02 PM
Aw, geez--I just noticed the date of your originating post.
You got us all! Congrats, she said shamefacedly. Ya danged Ireland!

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