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Posted By: Curmudgeon "fair country writer" - 10/26/11 06:03 AM
Anyone have any information about the origins of this term? Google search turns up a fair number of uses in published sources going back at least as far as Hemmingway, but I haven't been able to find any information about first use, origins of the term, etc.

Anyone have someplace to point me?
Posted By: BranShea Re: "fair country writer" - 10/26/11 08:47 AM
curmudgeon
1570s, of unknown origin; the suggestion, based on a misreading of a garbled note from Johnson, that it is from Fr. coeur mechant "evil heart" is not taken seriously; the first syllable may be cur "dog." Liberman says the word "must have been borrowed from Gaelic (and references muigean "disagreeable person"), with variant spelling of intensive prefix ker-. Related: Curmudgeonly.

The quickest way to have first looks at etymologies is to visit
Online Etymology: Link Good site. Good word, curmudgeon. ;~)

Posted By: zmjezhd Re: "fair country writer" - 10/26/11 12:47 PM
I think he's asking the origin of the phrase in the subject "fair country writer", Bran.

It seems to be a regionalism from Texas. I am not quite sure how to parse it: is it [fair] [country writer] or [fair country] [writer]?
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: "fair country writer" - 10/26/11 05:32 PM
I'm not sure it's not exclusively regional south or SW. Hemingway said it of McKinley Kantor, for example.

And I'm pretty sure it's [fair country] [writer] since I've found several different nouns as the final one, not just "writer" though that seems to be the most common. E.g. "fair country ball player" said of baseball player.
Posted By: BranShea Re: "fair country writer" - 10/27/11 07:40 AM
I think he's asking the origin of the phrase in the subject "fair country writer", Bran.

smile I think I went for the word that I liked best, but sure "fair country writer" is fair as well. smile

Posted By: Faldage Re: "fair country writer" - 10/27/11 09:24 AM
But, what does it mean?
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: "fair country writer" - 10/27/11 12:13 PM
I wondered that meself, Fald, and I'm thinking it means a pretty good amateur writer? as opposed to a "city" writer which one would expect to be cultured and edumacated and all that?
Posted By: Faldage Re: "fair country writer" - 10/27/11 12:39 PM
That would suggest that the parsing is [fair][country writer] and that other examples of "fair country X" would be parsed the same way, Curmudgeon's reading notwithstanding.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: "fair country writer" - 10/27/11 01:24 PM
agreed.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: "fair country writer" - 10/27/11 02:28 PM
I'm pretty sure it's [fair country] [writer] since I've found several different nouns as the final one

I'm beginning to think it's [fair] [country writer]. Neither the Dictionary of American regional English or Green's Dictionary of Slang had an entry for "fair country". I googled "country writer", and it seems to go back well into the early 19th century as a kind of writer opposed to a "city writer".
Posted By: Jackie Re: "fair country writer" - 10/28/11 12:55 AM
Dr. McCoy on Star Trek once referred to himself as an old country doctor; and so I thought it'd be {fair}{c.w.}.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: "fair country writer" - 10/28/11 12:25 PM
He's dead, Jim.
Posted By: Jackie Re: "fair country writer" - 10/29/11 03:01 AM

Good one, eta! The actuality is sad, though. I did have a crush on him.
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