Pursuant to

http://wordsmith.org/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/187922/Type_1_2_3_revisited#Post187922

...in which tsu so kindly provides a mathematical analysis interesting to consider but still under scrutiny, herewith a poll to determine approximately what fraction of us don't understand the meaning of "doggo" or didn't until it recently appeared under Today's Word. If you are embarrassed to admit you didn't, I'm quite sure you can vote anonymously

How anonymous would that be? I wish you could shrink your link.

regarding the long link, note that the post number (187922) appears twice. you can cut off everything after the first occurrence and the link still works, so..

http://wordsmith.org/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/187922

tsu thanks, you must really work at this stuff night and day. At the conclusion of this thread you might calculate whether "doggo" falls closer to Type-2 or -3

three to five.. I'll admit I expected this to be essentially reversed; but I'm actually more concerned at the low voter turnout. eight votes is really commiserable. and, I suppose, indicative of the traffic here these days.

anyways, I think I'll go lie doggo now..

In spite of my dislike of categorizing words and avoiding threads on 1.2.3. words, I've given my vote to this dogged poll. I'm one of the vast mayority who didn't know. Yes, the traffic is low and will be even lower if you go the dogs.

Traffic also depends on the words of the week.(not to forget this forum is directly attached to AWAD.) Can't say this week's words, being very matter of fact expressions, left much room to speculate about. Why people who pass by are not hanging on we can't be sure, but I would certainly not have lingered here if I had been welcomed by a Type 1.- 2.- 3. - words biggering. And we've had that about 12 times now. ( no personal offense meant )in the comparatively short period I've been here.

I was confused by the fact that, although it was stated that only one choice was allowed, two were offered. Which one isn't allowed?

tsu, yes with 7000 members I've noted the lack of participation lately and wonder why

Bran thank you, we need you. No offense taken but why all the anger about categorization, no need to emulate lat, I still love you

Fal, while composing the thread I wondered the same thing but concluded that it's simply the one not checked

dal, here's the thing that actually bothers me about the 1,2,3 rating..

doggo, for instance, you rate as a three. fine. that's where it falls, per your system, in your personal lexicon. so, I imagine, does the word doggery.

okay, here comes my point: doggo has 18 onelook listings; doggery has five onelook listings. to me, these numbers provide a better feeling for the relative obscurity of these two words. let's just for the sake of argument call these their OneLook numbers; doggery is a type 5 and doggo is a type 18 (where the lower number indicates more obscurity). the word 'see' is a type 30, for comparison.

for me, this provides more grist.. and I don't even have to give it too much thought, I just plug it into OneLook and I have a number that suggests *something to me.

BTW, there are several words in the wwftd dictionary which are type 1s by this system.

Which one isn't allowed?

The one that you don't choose, hmmm, but you can only choose One anyway. Unless you vote twice. For the same thing?
The Ambiguity Alligator bites again.

Ambiguity Alligator ?! So what do you do when you're up to your a** in ambiguity, prithee?

You forget that you came here to root out zombie rules.

"No offense taken but why all the anger about categorization, no need to emulate lat,"

Relapsing-remittent annoyances. You may take offense now.

My (Presbyterian) church is heavily into children, music and community service. My two 11 year-old sons both sing in the choir and play in the bell choir. They have added playing in an Orff ensemble for the Nativity Christmas Eve, and perhaps singing a small solo, all which require extra rehearsals. I sing in the choir, which is presenting the Vivaldi Gloria in worship this Sunday, with chamber orchestra, which requires extra rehearsals. The outside of my house is decorated, as well as 95% of the inside. I've been a little busy... :0)

tsu in any case there is indeed room for discussion but you might agree that today's rhopalic is a Type-3 if not -18

olly The Whimsical Ambiguity Alligator

Bran re Relapsing-remittent annoyances, I well understand and of course you are not alone but I have ruminated upon that and concluded that not every participant reads each and every post and therefore some repetitions are required to emphasize a critical issue where instead a link to the original might prove a nuisance

sleepy yes I can well understand your position as many of our acquaintances upon procreating have lately eschewed my Sons' and my beer-tasting sessions in the jacuzzi although it can't really account for the entire pullout. In both instances I hope many will rejoin when the kids grow old enough to (1) join AWAD themselves or (2) come to appreciate The Brew

Does that leave you all 5% to live in? ( lame..yes I know) You have twins? Fun. I'd really like to hear you all sing.

dal, you may be surprised to learn, as I'm sure you didn't bother to LIU, that rhopalic is a type 10.

and here I was primed to add it to the wwftd list. oh well.

tsu I apologize profusely as I had assumed considering my profound laziness you might guess I would classify any level exceeding 3 as simply 3 but I certainly appreciate your diligence

Re the poll: Thanks to all of you who so honestly and heroically checked "didn't"

Of course it's still open

da, I don't think you've yet grasped the meaning of a OneLook rating of 10; that is, much less obscure than 3.

p.s. - I'm becoming quite enamored of this new rating system, and I shall probly push it, oh, every time I see any other system, at least.

Jump out of the water before you get wet.

I'm becoming quite enamored of this new rating system, and I shall probly push it, oh, every time I see any other system, at least.

Hmm. While yours is a goodly one, I think something like a Google PageRank system is needed. Using a semantic database like WordNet (link), you can probably measure things like -nyms and numbers of definitions and how words link to one another. I will work on it in my copious free time and get back to you. (It will, of course, be open source.)

Again forgive me, of course your system varies from mine in that respect but mine is simpler and more fun. My issue is simply to promote the use of the Type-2. Although I find the -3 Today's Word interesting it's unlikely many participants will then go ahead and start using it on a regular basis so would hope Anu might take up my cudgel and concentrate on the -2

>concentrate on the -2

I think, in all candor, this is a vain hope. Anu has been at this for a long time and I think he's become a little jaded with quotidian words, and I've observed his selections trending ever lower on the onelook scale. (he even subscribes to the wwftd daily word.)

>is simpler and more fun.

as I've detailed above, this is only your opinion, on both points. but hey, you could undertake a poll; i.e., become a poll bearer. heh.

OMG--again! YOU made a play on words?!

Dale, since you want to rate words I'd think you'd jump at a more objective rating system. Your 1,2,3 system is simpler on first view but too easy to oversimplify, like the old comments about there being only 2 types of people in the world. Because it's based on your personal impression of the word and its popularity it can't take into account regionalisms, professional differences etc.
As for Anu sticking to more accessible words - where would be the fun in that?

Nuh-uh. There's 3 types of people in the world: those that count and those that don't count.

There's 3 types of people in the world: those that count and those that don't count.

Nope. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who count in binary and those who don't.

everybody counts, it's just that some people can't.

Tiring as are acronyms, I gave myself a good chuckle when I quickly read that as the "wtf" daily word... I think I'll start that one myself. First one: atokous (and no, it's not Yiddish for your butt...); it's for Dale :0)

He he, Bran! Almost that little...
Yes, the twins are most times fun. They are a handful, too!
You can hear us from last Christmas Eve here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0aeqSciWU Please forgive the quality (it's not good), the misspelling of "Presbyterian", and the HUGE sneeze at the end. This was uploaded by someone I don't know who was sitting in a side balcony. Not the best place to record from... It's one of our favorite pieces, Lux Aeterna by the brilliant Morten Lauridsen. You can also listen live this Christmas eve (will be Christmas morning, for you), on WXXI: http://interactive.wxxi.org/listen It starts at 11:00 EST (-5). We'd love to have a Dutch listener! :0)

That's the profoundest witty answer I've read in a long time.
Thank you!

YouTube quality is generally good enough to hear the difference between good and not good. I really very much enjoyed that singing. I always listen to friends' and cousin's choirs and I added this one to my favorites' list.
I will listen on Christmas morn. ( By that time I will have figured out the log-in)

As I mentioned to zm and tsu I prefer a system not requiring a whole lot of Web Mastery and intricate manipulation and Googling of algorithm but thank you all for your interest

Eg Zed as you can see from the poll, if most of our participants-- noteworthy as word-wise folk--didn't know "doggo," in my system we can instantly and without further ado conclude it's of Type-3