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Posted By: JohnG Punctuation question - 05/26/09 05:46 AM
Hi Wordsters,

Someone asked me to answer the following question and I'm not certain of the right response. I would opt for the second option. Do you agree?

Change to make correct:
“Between you and I, its right, they’re no mistakes’.”

Corrected version:
“Between you and me, it’s right. There are no mistakes.”
“Between you and me, it’s right; there are no mistakes.”
“Between you and me, it’s right – there are no mistakes.”
Posted By: BranShea Re: Punctuation question - 05/26/09 09:08 AM
Seems to me there are many correct ways.
Maybe the second isn't.
This maybe too?
"Between you and me.. it's right, there are no mistakes".
Posted By: Faldage Re: Punctuation question - 05/26/09 10:31 AM
Looks like a style manual question. I'd say they're all correct but if you're submitting to a publication, the style manual of the publication may state a preference for one over the other.
Posted By: JohnG Re: Punctuation question - 05/26/09 10:42 AM
Thanks for the help!
Posted By: Jackie Re: Punctuation question - 05/27/09 02:45 AM
Wordsters --I like that! Welcome, John.

Also--there're might be considered okay. Informally.
Posted By: Faldage Re: Punctuation question - 05/27/09 10:41 AM
Originally Posted By: Jackie


Also--there're might be considered okay. Informally.


But it's hard to say. And, FWIW, the same construction (or at least constructions that fill the same slot) in other IE languages tend to be singular regardless of the number of the object. German es gibt, not sie geben. The Spanish hay is derived from an expression with the singular ha. The French il-y-a.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Punctuation question - 05/27/09 10:48 AM
There're is a contraction of there are, but how do you pronounce
'there're' . There'rrrrrr?
Posted By: Faldage Re: Punctuation question - 05/27/09 10:57 AM
Just my point. And one reason why you so rarely hear it. As if to prove me wrong there are 589,000,000 Google hits but the first three are comments about its rareness.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Punctuation question - 05/27/09 01:37 PM
but how do you pronounce 'there're'?

/'đɝɚ/
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Punctuation question - 05/27/09 03:50 PM
Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
but how do you pronounce 'there're'?

/'đɝɚ/


and, I'm very sorry to have to ask, how do you say /'đɝɚ/?!
-ron o.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Punctuation question - 05/27/09 06:38 PM
(đ'đ)sceptical. (ɚ'ɚ)mysterious. /'đɝɚ/?!
Posted By: Faldage Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 01:59 AM
Originally Posted By: tsuwm
I'm very sorry to have to ask, how do you say /'đɝɚ/?!
-ron o.


Just like it's spelled.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 03:23 AM
how do you pronounce 'there're'?
Use the "th" sound as in then or...there.(!) And "ur" as in cur or fur. And "er" as in lure. Thurer. Sometimes ther-er.
I actually hear it and say it fairly often.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 09:20 AM
Thurer , I can say that, no furder pwoblem.
Posted By: Faldage Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 11:05 AM
Thur?! I'd pronounce it <thairur> with the stress on the first syllable and the second syllable kinda like Jackie's first syllable. This is pretty much the way Nuncle z spelled it.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 12:04 PM
Originally Posted By: Faldage
Thur?! I'd pronounce it <thairur> with the stress on the first syllable and the second syllable kinda like Jackie's first syllable. This is pretty much the way Nuncle z spelled it.


agreed.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 01:06 PM
I'm very sorry to have to ask, how do you say /'đɝɚ/?

Obviously, as in the General American contraction there're. But seriously, Ron, /đɝ/ is pretty much there and /ɚ/ is the rhotacized vowel of bird. I calculate that I give it about 1.5 syllables.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 01:10 PM
Just like it's spelled.

That is one of the advantages of learning the IPA and using it rather than an ad hoc phony logical English spelling derived "system". I was talking about accents once with a non-linguist friend, and he asserted that he did not have one: he spoke "just like in the dictionary". The jig is up, and yet it reels.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 09:02 PM
Huh? But nobody said thur. Just thurer.( with the stress on the first syllable )
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 09:39 PM
Originally Posted By: BranShea
Huh? But nobody said thur. Just thurer.( with the stress on the first syllable )


Faldo is questioning thurur (which does seem excessively suthurn), as opposed to thairur
Posted By: olly Re: Punctuation question - 05/28/09 10:24 PM
I'd pronounce more like 'Thearuh'. Suhthen Kiwi. smile
Posted By: Jackie Re: Punctuation question - 05/29/09 02:18 AM
Oh yes, we definitely say thur. Sometimes.

Suhthen Kiwi. ! Is it fried? wink

Faldage, maybe I'll call you sometime so you can hear me say thurer...
Posted By: Faldage Re: Punctuation question - 05/29/09 10:23 AM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Oh yes, we definitely say thur. Sometimes.

Suhthen Kiwi. ! Is it fried? wink

Faldage, maybe I'll call you sometime so you can hear me say thurer...


You got about a fifty-fifty chance of getting our answering machine vs getting our voice mail.
Posted By: Sandman Re: Punctuation question - 06/08/09 05:15 PM
Right, tsuwm. VERY informally.
Posted By: Sandman Re: Punctuation question - 06/08/09 05:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Faldage
Looks like a style manual question. I'd say they're all correct but if you're submitting to a publication, the style manual of the publication may state a preference for one over the other.

Faldage, you're dead right. Publishers have their own preferences. E.g., internal thoughts of a character: in italics, or in quotation marks. Nit-picky, but important to the publisher.
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