skinny scrannel - 05/28/08 01:16 PM
scrawny?
Re: skinny scrannel - 05/28/08 02:17 PM
As it gives
1. thin
2. unmelodious,
it gives the impression that it is mainly used in a musical context.
Do you use scrawny referring to any aspect of music?
1. thin
2. unmelodious,
it gives the impression that it is mainly used in a musical context.
Do you use scrawny referring to any aspect of music?
Re: skinny scrannel - 05/28/08 02:25 PM
Bran: Apparently so, but somewhat obscure as I had never heard it used that way:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD8153BF934A35757C0A96E948260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD8153BF934A35757C0A96E948260
Re: skinny scrannel - 05/28/08 03:41 PM
From etymonline
Lycidas
Looks like unmelodious may have come first.
Quote:
scrannel
"thin, meager," 1637; any modern use traces to John Milton ("Lycidas," 124), who may have invented it from dial. scranny (see scrawny). Or from a Scand. source akin to Norw. skran "rubbish."
"thin, meager," 1637; any modern use traces to John Milton ("Lycidas," 124), who may have invented it from dial. scranny (see scrawny). Or from a Scand. source akin to Norw. skran "rubbish."
Lycidas
Quote:
And, when they list, their lean and fleshy songs
Grate on their scrannel pipes of wretched straw;
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed, 125
But, swoln with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;
Besides what the grim Wolf with privy paw
Daily devours apace, and nothing said.
Grate on their scrannel pipes of wretched straw;
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed, 125
But, swoln with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;
Besides what the grim Wolf with privy paw
Daily devours apace, and nothing said.
Looks like unmelodious may have come first.
Re: skinny scrannel - 05/28/08 03:42 PM
Originally Posted By: BranShea
Do you use scrawny referring to any aspect of music?
not normally, no. but I wasn't really thinking about the musical connection, anyway, rather the similarity in both meaning and sound of scrannel and scrawny. which I see Myr has addressed.
not to mention flannel. which isn't usually scrannel until after it's been well-loved.
:¬ )
Re: skinny scrannel - 05/28/08 06:38 PM
Myr :
While Milton's L'Allegro, il Pensero ed il Moderato has been put to music very melodiously by G.F.Handel.
scranny and scrawny for violin music (Dale's link) I can imagine what that might sound like.Thin Katzengejammer.
Quote:
Looks like unmelodious may have come first.
While Milton's L'Allegro, il Pensero ed il Moderato has been put to music very melodiously by G.F.Handel.
scranny and scrawny for violin music (Dale's link) I can imagine what that might sound like.Thin Katzengejammer.
Re: skinny scrannel - 05/29/08 01:09 AM
Originally Posted By: dalehileman
Bran: Apparently so, but somewhat obscure as I had never heard it used that way:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD8153BF934A35757C0A96E948260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD8153BF934A35757C0A96E948260
hee hee
Obscure adj. a thing that dalehileman has never heard before
Re: skinny scrannel - 05/29/08 05:45 AM
Lycidas
I clinged to Milton because his poetry is so "melodious" it sort of asks to be set to music and this one I mentionend is a two CD's long a beautiful upliftng experience. Starting with:
"Hence, loathed melancholy" and ending two CD's later with "Thy
pleasures, Moderation give,".
Not one scrannel bit in it.(sorry . I'm not doing the music review , but I recommend it as a lift for low energy.
Quote:
And, when they list, their lean and fleshy songs
Grate on their scrannel pipes of wretched straw;
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed, 125
But, swoln with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;
Besides what the grim Wolf with privy paw
Daily devours apace, and nothing said.
Grate on their scrannel pipes of wretched straw;
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed, 125
But, swoln with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;
Besides what the grim Wolf with privy paw
Daily devours apace, and nothing said.
I clinged to Milton because his poetry is so "melodious" it sort of asks to be set to music and this one I mentionend is a two CD's long a beautiful upliftng experience. Starting with:
"Hence, loathed melancholy" and ending two CD's later with "Thy
pleasures, Moderation give,".
Not one scrannel bit in it.(sorry . I'm not doing the music review , but I recommend it as a lift for low energy.