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Posted By: dalehileman Ringtone DJ - 11/15/06 02:56 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ringtone+DJ&defid=748884

It gets thousands of Ghits, but like most of the rest of you I distrust UD. A quick Googling seems to indicate instead that the expr means anyone who collects ringtones

So have you heard or do you use the expr and if so what's your take on its usu meaning--thanks all
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Fried of the Rings - 11/15/06 04:14 PM
You weary me, DH. You exhaust me. I grow fatigued with you. I can't even type in the URL of a thesaurus and continue with my vocabulary of ennui. I die. I expire. Finito la musica.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: Fried of the Rings - 11/15/06 05:18 PM
zm: Sorry if I have breached protocol once more, but what did I do that was wrong
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Fried of the Rings - 11/15/06 05:25 PM
I think, Dale, that it always seems to be the same question. you find a phrase on the Urban Dictionary, and ask us whether we've heard it, and agree with the proferred definition.

perhaps if you followed a few of those ghits, and then gave us some comparison of what you found, it would give us more to chew on.

most of the words/phrases that you find at the Urban Dictionary are going to be new, and untested. someone, somewhere, comes up with something they think is clever, and they post it. probably with a greater frequency than Mother Nature herself invents things...

it is worse than the Wikipedia as far as control is concerned.
Posted By: Hydra Re: Fried of the Rings - 11/21/06 04:46 AM
>You weary me, DH. You exhaust me. I grow fatigued with you... I die. I expire.
>you find a phrase on the Urban Dictionary, and ask us whether we've heard it
>but what did I do that was wrong

I agree with Dale. What did he do to deserve this pretentious dressing-down?

I don't understand this exasperation. I think some of the words Dale has brought to the board's attention have been interesting. Certainly not exasperating. And anyway, if you're not interested, don't read his threads.

Don't worry Dale. I think they're just dissin' your Urban Dictionary for Geek-cred.

>most of the words/phrases that you find at the Urban Dictionary are going to be new, and untested

That's not my experience. But I guess you have been searching the Urban Dictionary for new, untested words, and been disturbed to discover they have an entry.

It reminds me of that story about a woman who took Dr. Johnson to task for recording "improper" words in his dictionary: He stopped in mock horror and said: "But madam, you have been looking for them!"

Or, if you have not, then this criticism is based on the words Dale has introduced to you; and in that case you would have us believe that his posts represent a comprehensive cross-section of all the words in the Urban Dictionary. You may be tempted to make the hyperbolic riposte that that is so, but your argument that "most of the words/phrases that you find at the Urban Dictionary are new and untested" remains indefensible.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 05:22 AM
I agree with Dale. What did he do to deserve this pretentious dressing-down?

OK. I'll do something, Hydra, (or Dale), that you would never do: I'll apologize. I am so sorry Hydra that I ruined your day or night as it were. So very sorry. It was just friendly banter. La!
Posted By: Hydra Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 05:52 AM
Then 'tis I owe you the apology. I am sorry for getting on my soap-box and pooh-poohing your repartee. It's just, I thought you might have frightened Dale off, and I for one am not entirely uninterested in his Urban Dictionary findings.

Edit: By the way, Hydra does have many faces, but Dale is not one of them, as I'm sure Dale will testify.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 10:20 AM
582 new words/defs on Tuesday alone? and it's only 6:21 am where I am...
Posted By: Hydra Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 10:36 AM
According to the logic of this comment, there is some critical number of words that may be added to a dictionary per a certain time-frame before the authenticity of not only words thereafter coined, but also all words already coined, can be automatically rejected. Pray, etaoin, what is this magic number? 581? 10? 6?
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 10:45 AM
sorry, too early in the morning to get involved in a pissing match with you, H.
Posted By: Hydra Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 12:37 PM
>Pissing match.

I like that.

The UD specialises in cataloging slang and sweary words. This linguistic terrain is so very protean, rich, creative and varigated that a mere 581 new words a day—from the millions and millions of Netizens in the multicultural, global theatre of cyberspace—is somewhat underwhelming.

And, I maintain that it is a valuable resource. No, I won't find the UD much use if I am trying to get through Hypnerotomachia Poliphili, but if I'm playing an on-line game and someone tells me that I have been "pwned", and I have no idea what they are talking about, the UD is my friend.

>Untested

It didn't occur to me to point this out earlier, but, if I am not deceived, the UD uses a voting-system to determine the order in which definitions appear—a kind of epistemological democracy, if you will.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 12:57 PM
I think you need to re-read my post again, Hydra. I never said that the UD wasn't valuable.
my suggestion to Dale was that he do a bit more digging before he asked a question about a word. I was trying to offer an answer to z's response to Dale.

and I thoughtfully disagree: 3500+ words a week is a lot of new words/defs. and I offer that most of those words will not make it into the vocabularies of the general populace.

as far as voting is concerned, who is doing the voting? are we sure it's not mostly the same folks who submitted the word? just asking.
Posted By: Hydra Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 02:06 PM
It seems, etaoin, that in this particular pissing match, you are standing downwind of me.

It is obvious from the way you are speaking that you equate "newly added" with "newly coined". But you fail to see that the number of words added per day will include a percentage of words that have been around a while and are being added belatedly to the UD. In other words, the number of words added to the UD is not representative of the number of words being coined.

>I think you need to re-read my post again, Hydra. I never said that the UD wasn't valuable.

You said that most of the words in the UD were "new and untested", and implied they were therefore unworthy of being discussed on these boards. Would you still have me believe that that leaves open the possibility you believe the UD is a valuable resource?
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 02:10 PM
yes. new and untested in my mind does not ascribe value.
Posted By: BranShea Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 02:43 PM
Thanks for all this fuzz about Urban Dictionary. This site will be a great help for understanding the words not to be found in the Ordinairy Dictionary.
Thanks again Dale and ZM, even indirectly, there always someone who benefits from stirring up some dust.
Posted By: Hydra Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 03:36 PM
You believe that most of the words in the Urban Dictionary are new and untested. Based on the rate at which words are added to the UD, you believe words are being invented more or less haphazardly, and then voted for by their inventors. You believe most of these words "will not make it into the vocabularies of the general populace." You believe that these words should not be discussed here freely, but that anyone wishing to discuss a word from UD here must first try Google. You do not deny that the Urban Dictionary is a valuable resource.

OK, etaoin. I see how it is. I enjoyed our little talk. Be a good boy.

—Hydra.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 03:38 PM
Hydra, Bran: Thank you for te support, a rare commodity these days

Of course UD isn't a reliable indicator of usage, it's not that kind of site. However, it's always a good sign when several similar defs are submitted and esp if they get the larger nos. of thumbs-up
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 05:18 PM
> Be a good boy.

fuck you.
Posted By: Hydra Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 05:32 PM
What a naughty boy! No biscuit for you!
Posted By: Jackie Re: fiesta de las sukkos - 11/21/06 07:03 PM
Man--I hope y'all have had enough of this. How about a "whoa, now"?
Posted By: BranShea Re: invidious and wise - 11/22/06 12:06 PM
Coming from the same source, so spake Anu today. So, right you are Jackie, but advise me please, what dictionary should I choose now for understanding "Whoa!" I don't dare name the offensive book (site)again. Come on. Have a good all of you Thanksgiving tomorrow.
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