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What is the Plural of the wors POETRY?

Posted By: tuhin

What is the Plural of the wors POETRY? - 05/08/06 08:18 AM

i recently heard that only the sigular form od the word POETRY is used. but when i searched for "poetries" in google i got many results....
What is the exact plural form of POETRY..
please help
tuhin
Posted By: Capital Kiwi

Re: What is the Plural of the wors POETRY? - 05/08/06 09:31 AM

I would never use a plural for "poetry". I can't think of any circumstance under which "poetry" would need a plural. Finding Google hits doesn't really prove anything except that not everyone agrees with me! But from looking at the first page of hits when I googled "poetries", it is simple misuse. "Poetry" has no plural in most of the main dictionaries (OED, Cambridge, Websters, Mirriam-Websters, etc.)
Posted By: Faldage

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/08/06 10:34 AM

If you are speaking of, say, classical Latin poetry vs. modern free verse vs. Elizabethan sonnets, you might argue for using a plural of poetry and I would go with poetries. Not necessarily something you're going to run into in a dictionary though. They generally only list plurals if they don't fit the general rule.
Posted By: Capital Kiwi

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/08/06 10:53 AM

No, but some dictionaries seem to be listing it as a singular noun, no plural. Can't see the OED, so nothing definitive, of course.

I still thing that "poetries" is wrong, despite some 220,000 hits on Google to the contrary ...
Posted By: Faldage

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/08/06 12:11 PM

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I still thing that "poetries" is wrong, despite some 220,000 hits on Google to the contrary ...




Yet you probably think that books is the plural of book.

How many people using a solecism for how long does it take to make the error correct?
Posted By: Logwood

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/08/06 03:00 PM

My dictionary software, Babylon, confirms that "poetries" is no solecism.
Posted By: tsuwm

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/08/06 03:18 PM

plural poetry == poetry slam
Posted By: inselpeter

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/08/06 09:55 PM

The problem isn't the plural per se; it's that the plural changes the meaning of the noun radically.
Posted By: Zed

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/09/06 11:05 PM

Hi Tuhin
I wonder if you were thinking of poem and poems. Poetry usually refers to the entire genre so is not often used in the plural.
Posted By: Jackie

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 02:02 PM

Doesn't poesy cover tuhin's question?
Posted By: tsuwm

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 04:23 PM

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Doesn't poesy cover tuhin's question?




which sense, this one?
c: artificial, precious, or sentimentalized poetic writing

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 05:21 PM

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If you are speaking of, say, classical Latin poetry vs. modern free verse vs. Elizabethan sonnets, you might argue for using a plural of poetry and I would go with poetries.



it is of this which I agree.
Posted By: Marianna

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 05:43 PM

As in:

"The idea of belles lettres is in itself a French concept, and French poetry does stand apart even from the poetries of other Romance languages in its lyricism."

This from a website on translating Rimbaud.
Posted By: tsuwm

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 06:03 PM

just to be contrary, what would be wrong with recasting M's example as "French poetry does stand apart even from the poetry of other Romance languages in its lyricism."
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 07:35 PM

nothing.
Posted By: themilum

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 07:57 PM

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nothing.




Of which this thread is much to do about.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 08:11 PM

> Of which this thread is much to do about.

pure poetry, Milo.
Posted By: AnnaStrophic

pluralizing muses - 05/10/06 08:16 PM

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The problem isn't the plural per se; it's that the plural changes the meaning of the noun radically.




What IP said. Meanwhile, I've heard "music" pluralized, and in the context, it makes sense.
Posted By: TEd Remington

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/10/06 10:07 PM

Quote:

As in:

"The idea of belles lettres is in itself a French concept, and French poetry does stand apart even from the poetries of other Romance languages in its lyricism."

This from a website on translating Rimbaud.




So why are you chasing him?
Posted By: Marianna

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/14/06 08:03 AM

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So why are you chasing him?




Chasing whom?

To go back to the poetry of this fred, I agree that pluralising "poetry" adds another connotation to the basic meaning of the word (if "poetry" can ever be said to have a basic meaning). It stresses the plurality, in a context where you are possibly counting or enumerating or classifying poetries rather than looking into the art itself.
Posted By: TEd Remington

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/14/06 10:06 AM

chasing Rimbaud. Oh, wait. That's prolly a phrase you wouldn't know. That fellow is always chasing rainbows means he is seeking the pot of gold rather than doing constructive work.

I apologize for stretching my pun a bit thin.
Posted By: dalehileman

the wors POETRY - 05/14/06 02:03 PM

Vogon Poetry is poetry written by Vogons, a fictional race in Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. According to The Guide:

Vogon poetry is of course, the third wors in the universe....The very wors poetry of all perished along with its creator, Paul Neil Milne Johnstone of Redbridge, in the destruction of the planet Earth....Listening to it is an experience similar to torture as demonstrated when Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect are forced to listen to the Vogon captain's poetry prior to being thrown out of an airlock--Wikipedia
Posted By: Marianna

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/14/06 02:18 PM

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chasing Rimbaud. Oh, wait. That's prolly a phrase you wouldn't know. That fellow is always chasing rainbows means he is seeking the pot of gold rather than doing constructive work.

I apologize for stretching my pun a bit thin.




Oooooh, I see now... I do know the phrase "chasing rainbows", but I didn't make the connection... Thanks.
Posted By: Jomama

Re: What is the Plural of the word POETRY? - 05/17/06 04:52 AM

Instead of 'poetries' I would probably say 'kinds of poetry' or
'forms of poetry', but I don't see any real objection to the word.
How does a plural change the concept or meaning of its singular noun?
Have we been overlooking PLURAL POWER?
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