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Posted By: slithy toves pentimento - 02/20/03 12:55 PM
Interesting to compare pentimento and palimpsest. Used metaphorically, wouldn't they be interchangeable?

Posted By: Faldage Re: pentimento - 02/20/03 01:04 PM
They have their differences, for sure, but metaphorically, yes, I believe you're right.

Well, maybe a slight difference in connotation: Pentimento involves merely covering up while palimpsest implies an active attempt to erase the past. It should be noted that neither is entirely successful in the long run.

Posted By: Alex Williams Re: pentimento - 02/20/03 01:46 PM
If you eat a grilled cheese sandwhich and it makes you sick, that's a pentimento cheese sandwich.

[/directly to jail, doesn't pass Go]

Posted By: Faldage Re: pentimento - 02/20/03 01:49 PM
grilled cheese sandwhich

A) And I thought it was a board game distantly related to go moku/renju

2) Wich kind of cheese did you have in mind?

Posted By: wwh Re: pentimento - 02/20/03 02:09 PM
Where is emanuela when we need her? I suspect that the first syllyable of this word
is pronounced more like "pain" than "pen".

Posted By: emanuela here! - 02/20/03 04:21 PM
No,"pen" is the correct pronounciation

I tried to pronounce pentimento as you suggested and the result is ... a strong american accent.

Do yo know also "sentimento" = feeling?

Posted By: wwh Re: here! - 02/20/03 04:33 PM
Dear emanuela: thank you for your setting me straight. I guess I was being influenced
by Spanish penitentes. Of course I may be wrong about that too.

Posted By: Alex Williams Re: here! - 02/20/03 05:14 PM
grilled cheese sandwhich Wich kind of cheese did you have in mind?


Argh! I actually had made that typo, corrected it, and then in re-writing the whole joke [no doubt the extra effort shows] I made the same typo all over again. *sigh*

And I thought it was a board game distantly related to go moku/renju

What is moku/renju?

Posted By: Faldage Re: here! - 02/20/03 05:26 PM
Go moku It's a sort of tictactoe game. You're trying to get five in a row, orthogonally or diagonally on a nineteen by nineteen board. Renju is the version with tweaks to counteract the first player's advantage and the fact that there is a relatively easy way to force a win.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: here! - 02/20/03 08:16 PM
I tried to pronounce pentimento as you suggested and the result is ... a strong american accent.

That's great, emanuela!

Posted By: consuelo Re: here! - 02/22/03 12:02 PM
penitentes
pen-ih-ten-tays
the eee sound of the i gets a little squished between the pen and the ten.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: penitentes - 02/22/03 04:44 PM
pen-ih-ten-tays
the eee sound of the i gets a little squished


yes, but is there a rule (guideline) which tells us when (not) to use the aaa sound for an e? (only used once in penitentes) somewhere I learned that 'standard' continental vowel pronunciation was 'ah,aa,ee,oh,ooh'.

Posted By: consuelo Re: penitentes - 02/23/03 03:35 AM
The e-n combination seems to flaunt the ah ay ee oh uu rule of thumb. Rules? There are steenkin' rules?

Posted By: wwh Re: penitentes - 02/23/03 03:48 AM
Sounds like the guy who originated your dictum had the problem.
When I was in; the Philppines, my Filipino doctor friends could not say the word "ship"
without it's sounding like "sheep".

Posted By: Coffeebean Re: pentimento - 03/01/03 02:50 PM
One day down in old Sacramento
I purchased an antique memento,
And much to my pleasure
Uncovered a treasure
Beneath it: a rare pentimento!

Posted By: wwh Re: pentimento - 03/01/03 03:23 PM
A touching Russian song:
"Oche chornya, opissonya, Excremento, Kalifornya..............

Posted By: Faldage Re: pentimento - 03/01/03 10:23 PM
One day down in old Sacramento

See, Juan? It can be done.

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