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Posted By: Argent Fiber - 05/20/09 01:08 PM
Realizing there are but two days of high fiber remaining, I remain hopeful that 'spinster' or 'warp' make the list.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/20/09 08:41 PM
I wish I knew if it were wise to wish to wanna know what you are talking about.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Fiber - 05/20/09 09:31 PM
This week's theme
Fabric words used metaphorically
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/21/09 03:38 PM
metaphorically. I'll try to knot that word into my brain. Thanks.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Fiber - 05/21/09 05:28 PM
do you think you can cotton to the idea?
-ron o.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/21/09 06:57 PM
Certainly so, it's not woolly at all.
Posted By: olly Re: Fiber - 05/21/09 09:49 PM
Thats something to Mull over
Posted By: Jackie Re: Fiber - 05/22/09 03:03 AM
That's for sure and satin.

Polly Ester
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/22/09 05:12 PM
Wow at least the term "thread" fits here !
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/22/09 05:28 PM
laugh
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Fiber - 05/22/09 06:59 PM
ok, let's see how long we can string this one along.




(long, along? what's up with that?)
Posted By: wgstoops Re: Fiber - 05/22/09 07:15 PM
The relation of the word "plush" to furs is new to me. However, it brings to mind the word "surplice" - the ecclesiastical garment worn "super pelliceum" - over the fur garment.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/23/09 10:11 AM
Super pelliceum? Don't see how to spin a yarn from this.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Fiber - 05/23/09 01:43 PM
super pelliceum

Sub pellibus, literally 'under the skins', meant 'in camp' because Roman soldiers had tents covered with skins. Latin pellis 'skin, hide' is related to an English word that has penetrated many other languages, film (see AHD4, link). Though Spanish stuck with Latin and uses película < Latin pellicula 'small, soft skin'. And, of course, when the Saxa Volventa performed for Nero, they played Sub Pollice.
Posted By: Zed Re: Fiber - 05/27/09 08:36 PM
Hi Argent
Personally I consider anyone who still uses the ster spinster to be warped. grin
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/27/09 10:02 PM
There was in Benedictine (Trappist,etc.) monasteries,
a huge many-pleated overgarment worn over the habit
in choir. The churches were stone, unheated, and very
uncomfortable. This was worn in the many hours spent
singing the Breviary (Liturgy of Hours). Does anyone
know what it was called. The closest I can remember is
cucula, cuculum. But cannot find it.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Fiber - 05/27/09 10:17 PM
surplice? (fr. L. superpellicium)
Posted By: Jackie Re: Fiber - 05/28/09 03:34 AM
Holy moly! I did the Onelook search for cucu*--there are a LOT of words that start with those letters!! Here, Luke--take a look, since I don't know what I'd be looking for:
Onelook
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/28/09 09:14 AM
This looks like the regular thread and needle work.

Surplice
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/28/09 05:03 PM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Holy moly! I did the Onelook search for cucu*--there are a LOT of words that start with those letters!! Here, Luke--take a look, since I don't know what I'd be looking for:
Onelook


Yes, I had already checked that site. It is amazing, isn't it?
I have a friend in a Benedictine Monastery and shall contact him before pursuing this further.
But the word surplice is what made me think of it, especially as a former resident of a boarding school.
And the surplice worn by the choir master had split sleeves for conducting: always got a laugh out of
that. Thanks Jackie.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Fiber - 05/28/09 05:25 PM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Holy moly! I did the Onelook search for cucu*--there are a LOT of words that start with those letters!! Here, Luke--take a look, since I don't know what I'd be looking for:
Onelook


yeahbut®, choosing "Common words only" lists only 20...

and why the surplice page in French? why not surplice?
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/28/09 08:43 PM
The French surplice page was my 'fault'. I was looking for images of that many-plated overgarment LJ was talking about. As only the images counted and this popped up through my Dutch Google search I did't care to change it. I can find no plated stuff.(was interested to see how it looked)
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/29/09 05:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Holy moly! I did the Onelook search for cucu*--there are a LOT of words that start with those letters!! Here, Luke--take a look, since I don't know what I'd be looking for:
Onelook


I found the word: cuculla, probably plural form of cucullum because it was so ample.

second paragraph: http://www.osb.org/gen/habit.html

Now I just need to find a picture of it. There is a monk on You Tube wearing one, but don't know
how to get it to this thread, any more than I can put a picture here. (still working on Twosleepy's directions.)
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/29/09 05:31 PM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Holy moly! I did the Onelook search for cucu*--there are a LOT of words that start with those letters!! Here, Luke--take a look, since I don't know what I'd be looking for:
Onelook


Well, with a little work, and not too computer savvy, I found a picture of lots of
It is in the Onelook list too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kovelklein.JPG

It was worn over the regular tunic and scapular, note huge sleeves.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Fiber - 05/30/09 02:17 AM
Here he is, Luke (I finally figured out pictures myself, not too long ago); oh, and thanks for the word:
Posted By: Faldage Re: Fiber - 05/30/09 11:47 AM
Looks like what we used to call a choir robe. If I can make out the details through the black on black motif
Posted By: BranShea Re: Fiber - 05/30/09 03:34 PM
This what you meant? I kept confusing pleated with plated or scaled. Now, after searching 'pleated garment'/ images I know what pleat means.

Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/31/09 01:07 AM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Here he is, Luke (I finally figured out pictures myself, not too long ago); oh, and thanks for the word:


Sometime maybe you can help twosleepy help me figure them out. I think I need to do it on Firefox, as
that is what she uses.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/31/09 01:10 AM
It's possible. I cannot find a good picture of the cucula,
but I talked to a monk and he said the picture we have here
is OK, but not adequate. The cuculla is far more ample and
filled with pleats around the shoulders and collar, which this
one is not (but then there are different "brands" of Benedictine
monks, e.g. American Cassinese, Swiss American, etc.) The pleats
have names for various saints and virtues, etc. At least
I got something into the thread (pun) on fiber.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Fiber - 05/31/09 01:12 AM
Originally Posted By: BranShea
This what you meant? I kept confusing pleated with plated or scaled. Now, after searching 'pleated garment'/ images I know what pleat means.



These essentially are surplices. Now worn by choir boys, altar servers, assistants to bishops, acolytes,etc.
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