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Posted By: LukeJavan8 Obstreperous - 03/01/09 09:24 PM

AWAD discusses the word.
I once heard an older gentleman call the child he was
'babysitting' on a bus ride, "an obstreperous carker".
Being in high school at the time, I figured out a
carker was a "brat" or something similar, but it took
a dictionary to get me onto obstreperous. I think of
that incident whenever I see anyone escorting a child
of the same demeanor: an obstreperous carker.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Obstreperous - 03/02/09 03:04 AM
an obstreperous carker Was that in the U.S.? I've never heard carker, I don't think.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Obstreperous - 03/02/09 04:10 AM
hmmpph.. it was a wwftd!
Posted By: BranShea Re: Obstreperous - 03/02/09 03:22 PM
carker or obstreperous? If you use "obstreperous carker" acc. to the dictionaries you get:
Aggressively boisterous, mischievieous child or brat.
(just take the next bus)

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Obstreperous - 03/02/09 04:01 PM
>carker or obstreperous?

sorry, mine was a response to Jackie's "I've never heard carker."
Posted By: BranShea Re: Obstreperous - 03/02/09 10:48 PM
wwftd:cark
worry; trouble, distress
carking
burdensome, annoying

That's why wwftd did not turn up when I checked OneLook for the word carker.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Obstreperous - 03/03/09 02:35 AM
hmmpph.. it was a wwftd! Sorry, Dear! wink
Posted By: Faldage Re: Obstreperous - 03/03/09 11:47 AM
Not to worry, Jackie. That these words are worthless is a given; it's in their name. Thus, to forget them is expected, nay, even required.
Posted By: BranShea Re: Obstreperous - 03/04/09 02:19 PM
To get back to post 1.: surprised to find the word has a long history.

Cark
Pronunciation [kahrk] Show IPA Archaic.
–noun

1.care or worry.
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object)

2.to worry.

Origin:
1250–1300; ME carken to be anxious, OE becarcian, appar. deriv. of car- (base of caru care ) + -k suffix FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT="

Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House,

cark (kärk )
tr. & intr.v. carked, cark·ing, carks
To burden or be burdened with trouble; worry.
n. A worry; a trouble: carks and cares.

[Middle English carken, from Norman French carquier, to burden, load, from Late Latin carricāre; see cargo.]
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Obstreperous - 03/06/09 10:44 PM
Originally Posted By: BranShea
To get back to post 1.:
Quote:
surprised to find the word has a long history.
Cark
Pronunciation [kahrk] Show IPA Archaic.
–noun

1.care or worry.
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object)

2.to worry.



Origin:
1250–1300; ME carken to be anxious, OE becarcian, appar. deriv. of car- (base of caru care ) + -k suffix FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT="

Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House,

cark (kärk )
tr. & intr.v. carked, cark·ing, carks
To burden or be burdened with trouble; worry.
n. A worry; a trouble: carks and cares.

[Middle English carken, from Norman French carquier, to burden, load, from Late Latin carricāre; see cargo.]



Just remembering it from a bus ride in my child hood gives it a long history.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Obstreperous - 03/07/09 03:37 AM
smile
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Obstreperous - 03/07/09 04:09 PM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
smile


Back at you grin
and thanks.
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