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Posted By: BranShea ceasious - 04/24/07 11:10 AM
Always happy when a word falls within my spectre.

caesious (SEE-zee-uhs) adjective

Bluish or grayish green.
[From Latin caesius, probably from caelum (sky)

That is the color of the North Sea (Noordzee) and Channel, unless the water reflects the occasional blue skies.
The water Ceasar crossed to have some fun with the Brittons.

Never read this word before. Will see if any paint or color is obtainable under this name.
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Posted By: dalehileman Re: ceasious - 04/24/07 04:02 PM
A Type-3 for which the Type-2 might be "aqua" if the Type-1 is "blue-green" or "sky-blue"

...or "lavender" to the prescriptivist who denies the green
Posted By: BranShea Re: ceasious - 04/24/07 07:01 PM
You are quite forgetting the grey in this.
Aqua, that's the Mediterranian and the Honolulu sea.
Caesious is the grey-green-blue waters of the North Atlantic.
Written all over it.
And lavender is for Laverne.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: ceasious - 04/24/07 07:16 PM
Bran: No I haven't. A Type-3 is often more precise than a 2 just as a 2 can be more descriptive than a 1. However I doubt if "caesious " is much used in everyday verbal chat

I will transmit your compliments to Laverne
Posted By: of troy Re: ceasious - 04/24/07 08:30 PM
Quote:However I doubt if "caesious " is much used in everyday verbal chat

depends on who you talk to, and their vocabulary.

artists often know names for colors that those with out an artistic eye don't know.

caesious isn't in my pantone book (but then, its a few years old) but there are over 1000 colors, and each has a name.
there are over 6 pages (with 7 shades per page) of colors that could be called aqua. color words exist not to be snooty, but to be precise.

you might have no eye, or not give a wit about color.

but please stop making value judgements about those of us who do care.
knowing the difference between 'light purple' and lilac and lavender, and helitrope might not matter to you. but they are all very different colors. and defining a color, precisely matters.

I don't understand why you keep refering to words as type 3 (defined by YOU as snooty).

if you are not interested in words and their meanings, and using them correctly, why do you post here? you can get by on the 6000 to 12,000 or so basic words used in newspapers (your type 1) and never bother to learn more.

why do you insist on stating that those of us who want to learn words that have narrow precise meanings, are snooty?

it seems a sort of reverse snobbishness. YOU define yourself ast the anti snob, and you define us as snobby for learning precise words..

If you are not interestedin specific words for specific colors (or ideas, or things, or whatever!) go away.
get by with the colors as defined by crayola. (and limit yourself to 64 names for colors). be ignorant, and proud of your complete use of type 1 words.
Posted By: BranShea Re: ceasious - 04/24/07 09:43 PM
Hi,Helen. I've done some looking in the wordbooks. To me it was a new color name too, I must admit. Not in my list. From the look-ups it appears that it differs in definitions , which makes it all the more interesting.

I found:

: bluish gray
:having a blue very low in chroma
:Of the color of lavender; pale blue with a slight mixture of gray.
:pale blue-green
:bluish or greyish green

So quite a range of possibilities for us color minded ones. A hard to define color.

If you want to have a laugh see this: "rhyming with "CAESIOUS" ":

caesious

(scroll down)
Posted By: dalehileman Re: ceasious - 04/24/07 10:02 PM
Helen: My goodness, as Rummy might say. I had no intention of offending but hoping to hear from others who were so affected I am yours truly dalehileman@verizon.net. In the meantime we might ask who else is known for value judgments
Posted By: tsuwm Re: ceasious - 04/24/07 10:23 PM
>"rhyming with "CAESIOUS" "

Cantankerous!

-ron o.

Posted By: BranShea Re: ceasious - 04/25/07 05:16 AM
Originally Posted By: of troy
There are over 6 pages (with 7 shades per page) of colors that could be called aqua. color words exist not to be snooty, but to be precise.

Right you are and and this one seems to need the word ceasious to be defined. I think it will be hard to find in yarn and equally hard to be found in prepared paint or pastels.
Might come closest to lavender leaves; not the flowers.
Grey-blue-green. I think it would make a real nice fashion color.
There is a dune- blackberry type that has the latin 'caesius ' added to its name. This is a small blackberry that looks frosted greyish blue. (and tastes GOOD!)
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: ceasious - 04/25/07 10:41 AM
give it a rest, Helen. :¬ (
Posted By: Aramis Re: ceasious - 04/25/07 07:32 PM
In engineering it is often considered convenient to define colours even more precisely, such as by FED-STD-595 codes, or RGB values in computer graphics, e.g., 12/146/244*. [Just to be technically snooty :/]

*And no, just a straw example so do not know what that one is.
Posted By: Zed Re: ceasious - 04/25/07 07:45 PM
Quote:
If you want to have a laugh see this: "rhyming with "CAESIOUS" ":


Now don't you just LONG to use it in a poem!

Oh blackberry caesious
with colour abstemious
yet taste capacious
etc.
Posted By: of troy Re: ceasious - 04/25/07 07:51 PM
when it comes to computer colors, even RGB values can be different. depending on OS or browser.

colors made with 0, 3, 6, 9, C, are supposted to be the same on ALL browsers.

003300 should be virtually identical when viewed on but
103310 could be surprizingly differnt!

Pantone is another standare (used by print media,and some programs like photo shop can calibrate your monitor to give 'pantone value' colors.

these various standards correct the various names/ideas about what color is what
Red--even 'true red' can be very subjective! just as (as has been discussed) A or middle C is subjective.. is the value for C 440 H? or some other number?) you can get an idea even when slightly out of tune, but music definately sounds better when there is a commonly agreed on value!
Posted By: BranShea Re: ceasious - 04/25/07 08:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Zed


Oh blackberry caesious
with colour abstemious
yet taste capacious
etceteracious
Yeh!! And behold, it was brought within my grasp
Posted By: tsuwm Re: caesious - 04/25/07 09:24 PM
pardon me for butting in just to change the subject line, but.

-joe (aeiou) friday
Posted By: olly Re: ceasious - 04/25/07 11:40 PM
Originally Posted By: of troy
when it comes to computer colors, even RGB values can be different. depending on OS or browser.

colors made with 0, 3, 6, 9, C, are supposted to be the same on ALL browsers.


Kia ora Helen, Like music or sound the environment is important. All the monitors need to be perfectly calibrated and in the same viewing environment to be seen as true representaions(due to different coulour temperatures, fluoro, as opposed to daylight)LCD and plasma monitors reflect light differently as well,

Quote:
003300 should be virtually identical when viewed on but
103310 could be surprizingly differnt!

Hexadecimal equivalents of RGB
In the second colour red and blue have been added into the mix creating a slight difference.
Java and HTML interpret the colours almost identically as well.
Posted By: Myridon Re: ceasious - 04/26/07 04:20 PM
Originally Posted By: of troy
colors made with 0, 3, 6, 9, C, are supposted to be the same on ALL browsers.


In the 216 "web safe" colors, each R, G, or B value is either 00, 33, 66, 99, CC, or FF. This was back when many computers could only display 256 colors at a time and Windows and MacOS each had 40 different colors reserved. If you picked a "random" RGB value, the OS\browser on a 256 color display would have to pick some color to replace it.
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: caesious - 04/26/07 05:26 PM
Originally Posted By: tsuwm
pardon me for butting in just to change the subject line, but.

-joe (aeiou) friday


Just contributing a little hæft..
Posted By: Faldage Re: cæsious - 04/27/07 12:06 AM
Originally Posted By: AnnaStrophic


Just contributing a little hæft..


As in?
Posted By: Jackie Re: ceasious - 04/27/07 04:36 PM
Bluish or grayish green.
[From Latin caesius, probably from caelum (sky)

So...did Caesar have blue(ish) eyes? Is that why he was named that? (She asked, wondering if it was documented somewhere, not remembering much about Caesar herself.)

And...the link didn't work, for me. :-(
Posted By: BranShea Re: ceasious - 04/27/07 09:07 PM
Webster's Online seems to be Offline since a few days. I only get the home page and the browser page, so it's not your computer unless it's both our computers. Pity. It was a nightmare amount of words ending on -ious.
In the recent American/English TV production "Rome" Julus Caesar has very dark brown eyes and dark hair.~:~)
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: ceasious - 04/27/07 10:49 PM
Originally Posted By: BranShea
Webster's Online seems to be Offline since a few days. I only get the home page and the browser page, so it's not your computer unless it's both our computers.


it loads fine for me.
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