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Posted By: wwh p. 122 - 06/04/03 05:15 PM
panophobia - according to Scripps-Howard = generalized fear.

panornithic - no definition, no site using it found. I think it is for the birds, all of them.

panpipe - cliché in illustrations, showing Greek minor god Pan playing a wind instrument cosisting of
six or eight whistles of varying length tied togetther side by side. I can remember it being a big deal when
I was a kid, early the spring making whistles from maple sucker which for a short time have bark easy
to slip off intact, so that wood could be removed to made a cavity when bark was replaced. I’ll bet
that very few kids today know how to do it. Or want to.

Pansil - A Buddhist ritual:

In the Theravada tradition, it is customary to pay homage to the Buddha, recite the Three Refuges and undertake to observe the Pancca Sila (Pansil) on visiting a place of worship or at the start of a Buddhist ceremony. One can recite the following stanzas by oneself or invite a Buddhist monk to administer them.
The monk will recite each stanza in pali and the devotee should repeat it after him


pansit - A Chinese noodle dish in the Philippines


pansophism
n.
5< Gr pansophos, all-wise (< pan, all + sophos, wise) + 3ISM6 pretension to universal wisdom or knowledge
pan4so[phist
n.

pantograph
n.
5Fr pantographe: see PANTO3 & 3GRAPH6
1 a mechanical device for reproducing a map, drawing, etc. on the same or a different scale, consisting of a framework of jointed rods in a roughly parallelogram form
2 any similar framework, as an extensible arm for a telephone, a trolley on an electric locomotive, etc.
pan#to[graph$ic
adj.

pantomime
n.
5L pantomimus < Gr pantomimos < pantos (see PANTO3) + mimos, a mimic, actor6
1 in ancient Rome a) an actor who played his part by gestures and action without words b) a drama played in action and gestures to the accompaniment of music or of words sung by a chorus
2 a) any dramatic presentation played without words, using only action and gestures b) the art of acting in this way
3 action or gestures without words as a means of expression
4 in England, a type of entertainment presented at Christmas time, ending in a harlequinade
adj.
of or like pantomime
vt., vi.
3mimed#, 3mim#ing to express or act in pantomime
pan#to[mim$ic 73mim4ik8
adj.
pan4to[mim#ist 73mjm#ist8
n.
papeterie
n.
5MFr < papetier, paper maker, stationer < papier, PAPER6 a box of stationery


Paralipomenon in Douay Bible = Chronicles



par[a[prax[is 73praks4is8
n.,
pl. 3es# 73cz#8 5PARA31 + PRAXIS6 an action in which one‘s conscious intention is not fully carried out, as in the mislaying of objects, slips of the tongue and pen, etc.: thought to


paraquat
n.
5PARA31 (sense 2) + QUAT(ERNARY)6 a highly toxic, soluble yellow solid, CH3 (C5H4N) 2CH3[ 2CH3SO4, used as a herbicide


paratactic
adj.
1 of, relating to, or involving parataxis: also par#a[tac4ti[cal
2 designating or using a style in which sentences or elements within sentences are set down successively with little or no indication of their relationship
par#a[tac4ti[cal[ly
adj.



Posted By: Wordwind Re: p. 122 - 06/04/03 11:51 PM
On panpipes

I heard a recording. Fascinating. Mesmerizing -for the moment- and never to be returned to.

In other words:

Lovely and finally not worth the return. Kind of like those beings who beat away fitfully at the marimba.

Posted By: Faldage Re: p. 122 - 06/05/03 12:22 AM
not worth the return

I know what you mean. I heard a recording of someone playing a violin once. Felt exactly the same way.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: p. 122 - 06/05/03 01:31 AM
Not worth the return:

Well, there's violinists and violiists, so I suppose there may be panpipers and panpiers. The panpipes must have a use, but I just don't sit down to listen every day to panpipes, though I do to violinists. Maybe I need to find the right piper, you suppose? Seem to have violinists in abundance.

Posted By: wwh Re: p. 122 - 06/05/03 01:37 AM
Dear Faldage: I have spent many wonderful hours listening to Fritz Kreisler, Yehudi Menuhin,Isaac Stern, and Itzhak Perlman. I may have misspelled names. How I wish I didn't have this cruel nerve deafness that makes all music sound out of tune. I pity you if you are serious about being unable to enjoy violin music.

Posted By: Bingley Pansil - 06/05/03 02:28 AM
Pancasila or the five (panca) principles (sila) is also the official underlying philosophy of the Indonesian state. The five principles are:

Kebangsaan -- nationalism
Kemanusiaan -- human-ness/humanitarianism
Keadilan sosial -- social justice
Ketuhanan -- belief in God
Kerakyatan -- supremacy of the people



Bingley
Posted By: Bingley Pansit - 06/05/03 02:37 AM
Pansit is also found in Indonesia. You may know pansit better as wonton.

Bingley
Posted By: Bingley Paralipomenon - 06/05/03 03:25 AM
is the Greek for ommissions, and is the name used in the Septuagint for 1 and 2 Chronicles. It refers to the ommissions from the Books of Kings.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C1C9240D4

Bingley
Posted By: anchita Re: Pansil - 06/05/03 06:30 AM
"Pancasila or the five (panca) principles (sila)..."

'Panch' (pronounced as 'punch') is Sanskrit for 'five', and is often used as a prefix for groups of five. eg. 'panchtatv,' the 'tatv' meaning 'element,' the five elements being fire, water, earth, sky and wind.

Posted By: Bingley Re: Pansil - 06/05/03 06:49 AM
Some other panca words in my Indonesian dictionary are:

pancabuta -- the five elements (earth, fire, water, air, and ether)

pancacita -- the five ambitions (of the perfect person) -- health, justice, heroism, prosperity, and welfare

pancaindra -- the five senses

pancakembar -- quins

pancalomba -- pentathlon

pancamarga -- the five paths (to leadership)

pancawarsa -- fifth anniversary

Bingley
Posted By: of troy Re: Pansil - 06/05/03 10:23 AM
and its a YART, but what the heck,'Panch' (pronounced as 'punch') is Sanskrit for 'five', is related to the Latin root penta (5) and then gets the p turned into an F, e to an i, and the nt to a f or v... (all by various germanic cognates,) to give english five!

Penta itself lives on in Pentigon, and various other words that have a quality of 5.

Panca/penta was covered sometime in the not to distant past, about a year ago.. maybe a few months more or less.

Posted By: Bingley Re: Pansil - 06/06/03 01:35 AM
The prefix penta- is Greek. The Latin equivalent is quin-

Bingley
Posted By: of troy Re: Pansil - 06/06/03 02:33 AM
oops. oh well a pentagon is still a five sided figure, and penta went to through a whole bunch of changes in the german tongue to become five.

i remember that, because there seemed no connection between penta/quin* and five. (but better linguist than me found lots of evidence there is a link)

Posted By: Coffeebean Re: Pansil - 06/06/03 04:08 PM
penta went to through a whole bunch of changes in the german tongue to become five.


I would be interested in reading about that.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Pansil - 06/06/03 05:03 PM
interested in reading about that

http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE393.html

Posted By: wwh Re: Pansil - 06/06/03 05:40 PM
Hey, Faldage: what are the chances for "pinky" meaning little finger, fifth finger, being derived from "penk"?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Pansil - 06/06/03 05:50 PM
"pinky" … being derived from "penk"

Ya know, Dr Bill, I never thught of that. It's an interesting notion, but my gut feeling is the chances are pretty teeny.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Pansil - 06/07/03 10:14 AM
wwh, I think that's a wonderful factoid, if a factoidinal factoid!

And, Faldage, thanks for the link to penka and gang.

I have learned there that I am a quinquagenarian. Now to learn how to pronounce what I am...

Posted By: wwh Re: Pansil - 06/07/03 01:07 PM
Hey,hey,hey! Faldage, look at this:
pinkie1
n.
5prob. < Du pinkje, dim. of pink, little finger6 the fifth, or smallest, finger



Posted By: Faldage Re: Pinkje - 06/07/03 02:43 PM
Yeow! Dr Bill! A big fat kudos on ya!

Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/07/03 04:45 PM
Actually, the only time I ever saw "pinkie" used was in New Yorker satire on table manners, citing the affectation of having the pinkie ostentatiously uninvolved in grip on teacup.

Posted By: consuelo Re: Pinkje - 06/08/03 01:53 AM
What? Never seen a reference to a pinkie ring, then?


Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/08/03 01:16 PM
The only jewelry I have eveer worne is my wristwatch.
I leave ostentation to the gypsies.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Pinkje - 06/08/03 09:52 PM
So, in your book, wwh, anybody who wears jewelry other than a wristwatch is a gypsy? How very funny!

Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/08/03 10:46 PM
I believe in conspicuous underconsumption.
Like Cal Coolidge: Eat it up, wear it out, make it do, do without.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 01:12 AM
Did Cal really say that? [Actually, I thought Cal had more of a reputation for saying nothing.] I'm going to bed, but will try to google him tomorrow...

Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 01:21 AM
Cal Coolidge began his career in Northampton, MA. He patron;ized a saloon that sold two shots of whiskey for a buck. Cal would plank down his buck, take one shot, then come back in evening for his second shot.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 02:09 AM
"If you don't say anything, you won't be called on to repeat it." -Calvin Coolidge

"I have noticed that nothing I never said ever did me any harm." -Calvin Coolidge



Posted By: Wordwind Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 09:27 AM


Anybody read a definitive, entertaining biography of Silent Cal?

Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 12:32 PM
As a tragic paradox. lithic Cal was destroyed by the death of his son, who died of a streptococcal infection of a blister on his heel from playing tennis.

Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 12:41 PM
Coolidge became nationally famous from his dictum on Boston Police strike of 1919:
" "There is no right to strike against the public safety by anybody, anywhere, anytime."
From biographty in Grolier Encyclopedia:
http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/aae/bios/30pcool.html

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 02:58 PM
wwh, what should one do if one has a very bad blister? On one's heel, for instance since you mentioned it...?

Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 03:11 PM
Ordinarily, just extra cleanliness will suffice. Only diabetics or immune deficient persons are at extra risk.
Sometimes it may be desirable to remove the dead skin to prevent bacterial growth in serum trapped beneath it.
Thereafter it should be kept clean and dry.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 08:14 PM
I wonder how Cal's son's problem developed there? Very unnerving to think a blister could lead to death. I am the classic over-protective mother, but this is one death-event-scenario that got past me. One less worry, I suppose, but I'll certainly store it away for my probably soon-to-approach grandmotherly days.

Posted By: wwh Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 08:35 PM
Dear WW: The newspaper stories told little if anything more than what I posted. Let us be grateful that such tragedies are rather rare, and that today antibiotics still are very effective. Soap and water is still the most powerful preventive.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: preventive/preventative - 06/09/03 09:03 PM
Soap and water is still the most effective 'preventive' or 'preventative'? It is interesting to note that both are acceptable in your meaning, wwh.

Can you tell I'm compulsive, wwh?

Posted By: of troy Re: Pinkje - 06/09/03 09:22 PM
a girl friend of mine, (a few years ago, when she was in her mid thirties) had a hangnail. it became infected, and while it hurt a bit, she wasn't worried about it.. then her hand became tender, and she could see red lines of inflamation traveling up her arm (following the line of her blood vessels.. so finally she went to the doctor. he sent her from office to hospital! the 'lines' were sign of 'blood poisoning'. (the inflamation was in her blood, and inflaming her blood vessels.) her arm was red upto the elbow!

she was scheduled for immediate surgery to drain the infection.. general anethstesia was used... she had an allergic reaction, and went into heart failure!

She survived the orderal (she was in the hospital for a full week!) Luckily, her infection was not anitbiotic resistant.

she was in generally good health, just unluck to get a small wound infected, and to not treat it promptly. most of us get hang nails more than once in our lives, and some of us have even gotten hangnails infected.. but very few of us have had a hang nail be a near cause of death (can you think of it? cause of death: untreated hang nail! but it can happen.

Posted By: wwh Re: preventive/preventative - 06/09/03 09:49 PM
Dear WW: I had a real loony sick-iatrist call me obsessive, but it didn't bother me. Shouldn't bother you.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: preventive/preventative - 06/09/03 10:53 PM
Dear of troy and wwh:

wwh, first: OK. I won't worry that I'm compulsive.

of troy: Gee, thanks. wwh gives me blisters to obsess about fo the rest of my life and then you go and give me (and other obsessives) hangnails to obsess about.

Best regards,
WorryWart

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