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For controls I would suggest several alternate texts for people to read out loud. Some sprinkled with words that have unpronounced Ls in similar positions and some with pronounced Ls and some with a mixture of each kind of L. In each case have the L words come before the almond in the text. I like that! Candy????
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Interesting: "Porridge" is not a word used here. We always use the word porridge...what do you use? I have always pronounced almond (much to my mother's chagrin) as or(l)munds "Or(l)munds" {whew} I find that somewhat convoluted. But what do I know? Porridge; We have different cereals, different grains. Oatmeal, made from oats, Cream of Wheat, wheat. In the South they have what they call "grits", which I cannot abide. They put various things on it, like pepper and butter. All of these might qualify as porridge, as I understand the term. There is also Farina, of which I don't know what it is made without looking it up. So.....what is the content of UK porridge?
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I have always pronounced almond (much to my mother's chagrin) as
or(l)munds
Are you non-rhotic? What do you mean by that R in there?
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what is the content of UK porridge? err oats and milk/water sometimes a combination of the two...some people put fruits and/or nuts on top once made. It is always hot. We have cereals (cold) with milk (or yoghurt (yeuch)) on and those have various brandnames, Cornflakes, Special K, Coco pops, Rice Krispies, Sugar Puffs etc etc. I remember, when learning German, how horrified I was to learn that they had one word for breakfast cereal - Cornflakes - that was it...it did lead to an interesting discussion about how, if you visit someone else, they know which "Cornflakes" you wanted... Are you non-rhotic? What do you mean by that R in there? It was my feeble attempt at spelling my sounding out... the or sound is kind of a more o like sounding of aw (as in awk) and the (l) was me trying to put the subtle l that happens (rather than a harsh l sound)
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For controls I would suggest several alternate texts for people to read out loud. Some sprinkled with words that have unpronounced Ls in similar positions and some with pronounced Ls and some with a mixture of each kind of L. In each case have the L words come before the almond in the text. I like that! Candy???? Now if you had given me this advice before, I could have made a more accurate scientific survey, but I fear 'the subjects' now know what I'm after.....so its too late for me to do.
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I have always pronounced almond (much to my mother's chagrin) as
or(l)munds
At least I would understand what you meant Bex...more than some of the 'other' verbalisations that pronounce the 'L' (and I still have no idea how they do that, my tongue gets all tied in a knot).
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... feeble attempt at spelling my sounding out...) That's the problem with ad hoc pronunciation guides. The references are themselves undefined. If you say you pronounce "not" to rhyme with "cot", great. Do you pronounce "cot" and "caught" the same way? And, if so, do you pronounce them the way I would pronounce "cot" or the way I would pronounce "caught"? And how do you know how I would pronounce those two words? In an unrelated issue, those of y'all who don't pronounce the L in "almond" do you pronounce the LL in Allman Brothers?
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I have never heard that name....but I'd either say,
all man or L man, but not L L man
good question...I guess it's a matter of where you grow up or learn how to say it!
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>I have never heard that name.. The Allman Brothers Band
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Thanks TS...but what I should have said was...I've not heard their name said.
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