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Posted By: belligerentyouth Don't you weaponize the problem! - 07/19/01 09:39 AM
Okay, so someone has coined this verbification; fair enough. I mean those U.S. defence & security blokes couldn't string two coherent sentences together anyway, right? We expect as much from them.
How come many journalists are so quick to integrate such bleedin' awful language into their articles.
'The Guardian' includes 'weaponize' seemingly as a lark, like so:

'The Bush administration is planning to test a space-based missile defence system - the first step towards "weaponising" space' (www.guardian.co.uk)

Others just include such terms in their articles without batting an eyelid. Is it largely the fault of the media that these err, questionable terms gain popular acceptance?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Don't you weaponize the problem! - 07/19/01 12:13 PM
Sure it's the media's "fault." How else are you going to disseminate words and ideas so widely and rapidly?

(is it me, or is there a pattern* emerging in belligerentyouth's threads? )

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*appropriate, I might add

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Don't you weaponize the problem! - 07/20/01 12:02 AM
Well, when you have a President who couldn't give a rat's ass (to put it kindly) about the English language, and combine that with news organizations clamoring to coin the next "catch phrase" of the year or decade...then integrity just becomes a new brand of toilet paper. Bushonics started out as a joke...but it's really very sad.
Just strove for that there "C" average and you two can become Presidentialwise materium. And, now that he's President, the press corps is only too willing to validate this crap. So, now, the Administration is incorporating this malarkey into official releases because, when the public ear gets used to it, it makes Dubya the President sound less ridiculous in his day to day verbal linguistics. Strictly an Orwellian maneuver...don't you get it? Expect a lot more of this "offical" Bushspeak.

I like your explanation there, Whitman. Maybe they pay the papers off so that quotation marks will be left out of press reports ;-)

Expect a lot more of this "offical" Bushspeak.

I'll shield my eyes in future, so Anna doesn't have to deal with my ramblings! [playing my own paint]

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Don't you weaponize the problem! - 07/20/01 10:38 AM
Oh, don't get me wrong, by. I enjoy your ramblings. I have, however, noticed that your themes seem to be appropriate to your name. For me to do such difficult would be. Now you gotta tell this poor benighted USn what "playing my own paint" means....

You know what .. I'm not entirely sure. Heard someone say it a while back and I quite liked it. As far as I understood it, it meant 'to act' generally, or 'determine one's own fate/conduct'. Maybe our green-thumbed Commando can recall a bit more?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: play my own paint - 07/20/01 03:03 PM
As far as I understood it, it meant 'to act' generally, or 'determine one's own fate/conduct'

Think maybe it was along the same lines as "finishing in the paint"?

Forgive the long post, but i thought some of you might find this humorous. it was written by my friend Duncan a couple of years ago when i alerted him to a message board discussion wherein some expectant parents were trying to decide among Hunter, Dylan and Duncan for their baby's name (and it concludes with the "finishing in the paint" reference):

http://www.babycenter.com/tips/10054.html

I can't speak for the Hunters and Dylans
of the world, but with 28 years as a "Duncan"
under my belt, I feel pretty qualified to
respond to this thread. :-)

Please don't name the child Duncan. I've
met only three other Duncans, and we all
cherish the relative exclusivity. I don't
know what I'd do if it got trendy, as I
consider "Caitlin," for instance, to be more
a sentence than a name. [Simmer down, soccer
moms; I have nothing against the name
Caitlin/Catelyn/Kaightlynneh /per se/, but do
feel sorry for the kids who are doomed to
life with an appositive. My mother, the
third Betty in her first grade class, took to
spelling her name "Bettye," I suspect in
hopes of ditching the "Red-haired-" prefix.
It didn't work.]

Indeed, Duncan was easy fodder for the
teasing kids in Elementary school and I hated
it as a child. Kids will always find
something to pick on, though, and there are
plenty of other edges to catch. It's not as
if you can prevent your child from tripping
on the playground, stuttering, or packing on
a little baby fat, in an attempt to shield
them completely from teasing. Also beyond
your control is the emergence, to your
child's schoolmates' delight, of a media
figure who happens to share your his name. I
suspect it's all character-building, anyway.

For an uncommon name, Duncan is
encumbered with a surprising retinue of
associations. I've found this saves me a lot
of time at parties. Rarely, after I
introduce myself, the new acquaintance will
cite Shakespeare; I'm impressed. Not as
impressed as if my name were Aguecheek, but
impressed nonetheless. If the citation is of
Frank Herbert's _Dune_ series, I'm intrigued,
and "Man-at-Arms" from the "He-Man"
cartoon
series at least makes me chuckle. Anyone
who's noticed that virtually every parking
meter in this country was manufactured
by "Duncan" must be keenly observant, if
nothing else. Such people warrant some
attention, at least until it is established
that they aren't carrying a pad of parking
tickets. Should the first association be
with yo-yos, cake mix, or donuts, I wonder
why my host didn't take more care with the
guest list.:-)

Entertaining, too, are the creative
spellings of Duncan I've begun to notice
lately. Whether this reflects a decline in
the advertising budget at Aurora Foods,
Sandy's advancing years, or the state of
secondary education in this country I can not
say, but "Dunken" has recently edged
"Dunkin"
as the name most commonly ascribed to me by
clerks, counter-help, and waitresses. Not as
bad, perhaps, as the plight of an associate,
one Dr. Gonzales, whose communications from
our department secretary come addressed
to "Hosa," but surprising, nonetheless.

Be aware, too, that Duncan Sullivan will
just as often be Sullivan Duncan, though the
same would apply to each of your other
choices. If the subject comes up, assure him
that his name, whichever it is, is better in
this respect than "Phillip Michael
Thomas," "Anthony Michael Hall," or
"Jan-
Michael Vincent."

So, Dorky? Perhaps. But way cool if he
can finish in the paint.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: play my own paint - 07/20/01 04:54 PM
>But way cool if he can finish in the paint

this, most assuredly (and unfortunately), is merely a "sports reference" [specif. used by basketball commentators such as Dick Vitale]. I hope that the same is not true of the subject phrase.

Posted By: belMarduk Re: play my own paint - 07/20/01 05:58 PM
Admited basketball ignoramus asks...and it has to do with basketball how? The net is not over a specifically painted place is it? I seem to recall from my school days that there was some sort of marks on the floor telling you where to take your penalty shots but not that the area was overly painted in any way. In the middle of the court there was a coloured circle where the two middle players started the game off. (shrugging shoulder emoticon)

Posted By: tsuwm Re: can you finish in the paint? - 07/20/01 06:22 PM
take a look at this ad for a basketball court stencil...
http://www.ontimecolor.com/cgi-bin/ontimecolor/basketball.html

the rectangular area is usually painted, in ref. to the rest of a wood floor, some highly contrasting color (e.g., one of the school or team colors). this area is the "three-second lane" (from the rule that says you can't camp out in there waiting for the ball to come) or just the "lane"
or "the paint". here's another link showing someone about to "finish in the paint".
http://www.ebasketballcourt.com/

Posted By: Bean Re: can you finish in the paint? - 07/25/01 11:49 AM
this area is the "three-second lane" (from the rule that says you can't camp out in there waiting for the ball to come) or just the "lane" or "the paint".

Huh? We always called it "the key". Canadianism, or do USns use it too?

Posted By: Brandon Three Seconds in the key? - 07/25/01 12:26 PM
"In the key," in America, usually means the circle surrounding the free-throw line, and most typically, the top of that key being nearest to center court. The lane (or paint) is only the rectangle below the free-throw line and under the basket. The key and the paint share only one-half a circle (the half below the free-throw line).

However, in American usage (at least I've never heard otherwise, and I am a 7-times-a-week basketball player) the key is usually an abbreviation of "the top of the key" and only means the area closest the center court where the three point line and the free-throw circle intersect.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: the key - 07/25/01 02:10 PM
I guess I always thought of the key as being the combination of the circle and the lane [rectangle], due to its resemblance to a keyhole. but it could well be that it includes only the semicircle that is part of the lane (i.e., the key = the lane) as in this link: http://www.lessontutor.com/bsktbl2.html

Posted By: Bean Re: Three Seconds in the key? - 07/25/01 03:17 PM
the circle surrounding the free-throw line

Hmm...that is interesting...I played basketball in high school (in Canada) and we meant the whole rectangular thing, the whole part that you aren't allowed to be in longer than three seconds. In fact, I don't think that includes the round part, does it? Anyway, that was the name, and (as with most language things) it never occurred to me that others might name it differently!

Posted By: Brandon Re: the key - 07/25/01 05:20 PM
Thanks for the educational link, tsuwm. I'll gladly recant on my assumption about the key being only the circle. After tsuwm's link and some other googling, I bow my head in shame. Good thing all my basketball buddies aren't also linguaphiles, or they'd shame me both in AWADtalk and on the court.

Posted By: Jackie Re: the key - 07/26/01 02:47 AM
I bow my head in shame
Don't you dare, sweet talented Brandon! If that's what you and your group mean by the key, then that's what it is, to you!

Posted By: tsuwm Re: the key - 07/26/01 02:30 PM
> If that's what you and your group mean by the key, then
that's what it is, to you!

but; this is only sage advice should you remain insular in your b'ball endeavors. should your bb-prowess ever take you, say, to the regional games you could be embarrassed and (worse) distracted enough to throw you off your game (to the point of not being able to finish in the paint!?). which is to say, it never pays to look like a rube when playing games with the guys.

Posted By: Faldage Re: the key - 07/26/01 02:39 PM
it never pays to look like a rube when playing games with the guys.

Didn't see White Men Can't Jump did you, tsuwm?





Posted By: tsuwm Re: white men can't jump - 07/26/01 03:01 PM
saw it; had to keep telling myself: it's only a movie... it's only a movie....

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