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Posted By: wwh Full Monty - 06/25/01 02:47 PM
I think word-detective has a better discussion of this phrase than that given in Today's Word.

http://www.word-detective.com/093098.html#monty

Posted By: rodward Re: Full Monty - 06/25/01 03:27 PM
wwh - the explanations given at your link are the ones often proposed. I ceratinly have nothing to judge them by. It talks about the phrase only being in general usage from the 1980s. I am not aware of it being in widespread use until after the recent film, but my memory tells me I had heard and understood the term back in the mid-60s.
Rod

Posted By: Faldage Re: No, no, no, no, no! - 06/25/01 03:36 PM
A monty was the amount of space left over in a cement mixer after all of the ropes used to hold down the ammunition belts had been removed and the material used in the cement mixer lorry's driver's kilt had been converted into making a jacket for the gunner who had carried the rugby ball the length of the pitch and thereby gained a snotch.

Posted By: wwh Re: No, no, no, no, no! - 06/25/01 03:54 PM
I should have said " more complete discussion." I did not mean to imply that I accepted any of the interpretations.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Weekly Themes - 06/25/01 11:14 PM
So now we have "Full Monty" discussed everywhere but where it should be.

harrumph®

Posted By: wwh Re: Weekly Themes - 06/25/01 11:45 PM
Full Monty was Today's Word, actually a phrase. It is not a Weekly Theme.

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: No, no, no, no, no! - 06/26/01 12:56 AM
No,no,no,no,no!

Sorry, Faldage, but this sounds more like ullage to me!

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Full Monty - 06/26/01 01:24 AM
Here, Rod, this link is a little more comprehensive in its explorations. Not because it's my link, it just is...actually I was hoping Dr. Bill's link opened a few more doors...I just want more information! It seems we have an insolvable phrase origin! This links gives references going back to the 1800's. But, as everywhere, no source is uncovered.

Here is a fascinating and thorough discussion on the possible origins of the phrase "the full monty", an excerpt from the newsletter of the Quote/Unquote site I mentioned a little while back...here's the URL:

http://www1.btwebworld.com/quote-unquote/p0000029.htm

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Weekly Themes - 06/26/01 10:20 AM
Dr Bill semi-harrumphs®: Full Monty was Today's Word, actually a phrase. It is not a Weekly Theme.

It is part of this week's theme. Without the individual words/phrases, we'd have no weekly themes.

(does beating a dead horse make me a nag? )

Posted By: Faldage [Duck and cover e] - 06/26/01 10:58 AM
 

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Weekly Themes - 06/26/01 12:28 PM
ASp (k)nickers does beating a dead horse make me a nag?

"Are you dead, horse?!"

[still looking for that movie]

Posted By: wwh Re: Weekly Themes - 06/26/01 01:33 PM
" This week's theme: new words in the OED. "

That is what Wordsmith says. I have no opinions about the choices the OED made.

Posted By: of troy Re: Weekly Themes - 06/26/01 03:14 PM
Re: does beating a dead horse make me a nag?

I guess if the shoe fits...

Posted By: Faldage Re: Weekly Themes - 06/26/01 03:21 PM
if the shoe fits

Ya gotta know the magic word.

Posted By: maverick Re: Weekly Themes - 06/26/01 03:28 PM
or architecht a nu won

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