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... between philharmonic and symphony?
New York and Berlin have philarmonic orchestras. Chicago and Paris have symphony (symphonic) orchestras. Vienna has *both kinds!
I remember learning the terms had something to do with organizational structure, but am at a loss now. Help?
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...isn't its full name the "New York Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra?" Is it truly a distinction without a difference? (Anybody remember the "adrenalin/epinephrine" discussion? http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=miscellany&Number=50359There the only difference was Latin/Greek.)
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The dictionary definition of "philharmonic" points out that many orchestras are dependent
on societies that support them financially, and it is the societies that are "philharmonic".
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in the classical sense, the orchestra itself could be said to be "philharmonic".
Philharmonic: A symphony orchestra or the group that supports it. from AHD
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What Dr Bill said resonates. Maybe this is an old-fashioned distinction, since all orchestras, far as I know (not to mention choruses!) are dependent of financial support....?
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This got me thinking, so I looked it up in my Cdn Oxford. All I found for "philharmonic" was:
1. fond of music
2. used characteristically in the names of orchestras, choirs etc.
Then for "symphony orchestra" I found:
a large orchestra suitable for playing symphonies etc.
So many it does have to do with the composition? maybe you need to have a certain number and variety of instruments to be a "symphony orchestra"? Just a thought....
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mg:
I would have just assumed that a symphony orchestra has enough instruments to play most symphonies.
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TEd - d'ye not think that's why they call 'em that?! ie, perhaps just an orchestra is not necessarily a symphony orchestra - therein lies the differmints? just wondering....
After all, isn't there such a thing as a chamber orchestra? which, of necessity, is smaller, since it gotta fit into a chamber. A chamber orchestra would not, methinks, be playing symphonies.
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A chamber orchestra would not, methinks, be playing symphonies.Herewith the 2002-2003 Subscription Series of the Cayuga Chamber Orchestra. Note that four of the five concerts include symphonies. http://www.ithaca.ny.us/Orgs/CCO/series.htm#subscript
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Following this logic, a philharmonic orchestra plays philharmonies.
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