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#91412 - 01/10/03 04:22 PM Re: Bat Saliva
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Bat,bat, come under my hat
And I'll give you a slice of bacon fat.
And when I bake,
I'll bake you a cake.
If I am not mistake n


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#91414 - 01/10/03 06:26 PM Re: Bat Under My Hat
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An old nursery rhyme. I'll look for URL.

http://64.45.40.103/early_childhood/nurse/bat/


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#91416 - 01/10/03 08:07 PM Re: Bat Under My Hat
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Dear WW: There are some wonderful bat sites on Internet. If you have a carpenter in the
family, you might enjoy making some bat houses, that might even help you escape risk
of West Nile virus. I never got around to it, and always regretted it. I built a couple owl
houses, but the owls never signed the lease.

Here's a URL aboutecho-location:
http://www.life.umd.edu/faculty/wilkinson/BSCI338/L25echolocation/sld025.htm


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#91418 - 01/10/03 08:27 PM Re: Owl Under My Hat
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Dear WW: I did not know that owls were so infested with vermin. We had one for a pet,
but I never touched it. Remember though, that owls eat the mice that spread Lyme disease.

Here is URL to very comple plans for making a bat house. Anything that eats mosquitoes is
a friend of mine: http://www.batcon.org/bhra/economyhouse.html


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#91419 - 01/13/03 08:08 AM Re: Owl Under My Hat
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It is worth noting that in November last year a bat handler in the UK died as a result of bat rabies. I must stress that this is an extremely rare occurrence and should not put anyone off the idea of taking an interest in bats, but it does happen. Bats have sharp teeth and will use them if they feel threatened having been bitten by a bat that I found lying on the flagstones in some cloisters adjoining Salisbury Cathedral, I can vouch for that!

This url deals with the case of the man who died.
http://www.ndsc.ie/d509.HTML.html

There are other sites that give advice on handling bats and a number that talk specifically of rabies in American bats and precautions you should take when handling bats.

Bats are protected species in the UK and you are not allowed to disturb their habitat. This has proved quite a problem for people who have had a bat colony take up residence on their property.


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#91420 - 01/13/03 07:38 PM Bat on my conscience
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Hoo boy! My landlady would be dead meat in the UK, then. She is so terrified of bats that she slaughters any that her poor tenent catches so she'll stop screaming. I only caught one. She promised she'd release it but she liedI won't catch any more for her.


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#91422 - 01/14/03 11:48 AM Re: Owl Under My Hat
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I offer the following from the Staffordshire Bat Group website:

"All British bats are protected by the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act. This means that bats and their roosts are protected from harm and interference.

This protection is needed because Bats are in decline. Old records of bat numbers show us that bat populations have decreased markedly. For instance, the numbers of the Greater Horseshoe bat have declined by over 90% in the last 100 years. In addition to this, in the year that Staffordshire Bat Group was formed, the Mouse-Eared bat was declared extinct in the UK!

The reasons for this decline are loss of suitable roosts and feeding sites."

I understand that intensive agriculture practices have also added to the decline by reducing the numbers of suitable insects.





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#91423 - 02/02/03 08:34 PM Re: Bat anatomy
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In looking up descriptions of bats, I encountetered the term "calcar" which might be "keeled" or not.
It took me quite a while to find a description of this term.
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The hind legs of many bats are partially or completely joined by a membrane, the uropatagium, which also may enclose the bony
tail. It is supported by the legs, the tail skeleton, and by the calcar, a special cartilaginous extension of the wrist. The calcar
sometimes bears a distinctive projection called a keel. In some species, both the uropatagium and calcar are absent.(the uropatagium is a portion of flight membrane between hind legs and midline.)
But if you look at picture in this URL, to your left there is a label "metacarpal" which must = "wrist".
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/media/anat/bat_wings.jpg



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