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#8801 - 10/31/00 04:46 AM For what it's worth
shanks Offline
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I once wrote a rather long post (on another board) about the difference, as I see it, between 'belief that' and 'belief in', with loads of swipes at pomo relativism along the way. If you're interested, it has been archived at:

http://www.unfacts.f2s.com/archive/shanks/POMO.html

cheer

the sunshine (doing my bit for Plato) warrior


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#8802 - 10/31/00 07:36 AM Re: Puggies
RhubarbCommando Offline
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and gorillas are all members of the family Pongidae

Many thanks, Pa,


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#8803 - 10/31/00 08:01 AM Re: inconsistency?
RhubarbCommando Offline
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claiming that all previous history had been "colored" by the views of historians, and he wanted to reveal "the truth"..

In a rare moment of reponsibility, I have started another thread on this topic, in Miscellany, under the title "The poverty of History" apologies to K.Marx


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#8804 - 10/31/00 09:04 AM Re: Latinists & Babel Fish
FishonaBike Offline
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the Reverend Doctor responds: "Yup."

To wish Fishy replies "Glup Glup. Thought so!"

Here's Rhub's "Latin Babel Fish" post by the way, for all those interested in an online Latin/English translator:
http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Board=miscellany&Number=5052


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#8805 - 10/31/00 09:19 AM Re: Intellectuals
FishonaBike Offline
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I found that site by doing a search at google.com for the phrase "Man needs God like a fish needs a bicycle."

My hero!
I should be following this up in greater earnest myself, of course, but this goes to the root of whoever first came out with the like a fish needs a bicycle construction. Which is obviously of interest to all present, but myself especially.

Of course, there is the possibility that the phrase originated solely as a graffito, and no-one but Bill Posters can be held responsible. A bit like the other vaguely related phrase: as much use as an ash-tray on a motorbike.

Now someone will tell me they know who first came out with that phrase, won't they?



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#8806 - 10/31/00 10:11 AM Re: For what it's worth
FishonaBike Offline
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the difference..between 'belief that' and 'belief in'

Thanks for that shanks. I think it is a useful distinction. Though I have to confess to POMOid tendencies myself, as you may notice from time to time!

I suppose it could be argued that this subject belongs not only on another thread, but on another Board.
Or does it? Using words correctly, defining commonly-acceptable interpretations and occasionally/often living with differences of opinion - aren't these common to AWAD and several strands of Philosophy?



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#8807 - 10/31/00 10:20 AM Re: Mogambo
belMarduk Offline
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Registered: 09/28/00
Posts: 2888
Thanks for the link Marty. I think I will make it a mini-mission to have Mogambo appear on National Geographic maps - special AWAD contibution to NG so to speak. I'll pass on link and info to them, and niggle them from there on. Cross your fingers.


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#8808 - 10/31/00 10:44 AM Re: Mogambo
tsuwm Offline
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>..and just to follow up... if I may be so bold, and to confound the issue further...

marty, this reminds me that I've been wanting to say that I think it's terrific the way everyone has taken to Looking It Up, and posting hot links -- IMHO this is the way the web was meant to be used!


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#8809 - 10/31/00 10:52 AM Re: For what it's worth
shanks Offline
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There are some who would say that all of modern philosophy is about language! So you're not far off there. But I agree that the discussion, as such, seems to have less to do with our ayleur tendencies, and more with generalised intellectualisms...

If you followed the link, you'd find yourself gently nudged towards the F.A.C.T.S board. It's where (when we can haul ourselves out of the gutter) a number of us discuss issues like this. Current hot topic: Why is there something instead of nothing?

cheer

the sunshine warrior


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#8810 - 10/31/00 11:01 AM Re: For what it's worth
maverick Offline
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followed the link

Thankshanks - helpful link.

Does this mean you are a factotum?


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