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why they call the fish-man Shona...
You're not the first to ask. Fishonabike.
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I thought I'd replied to Rhubarb
Sorry. I thought it was an open comment, Jo.
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Yep, it was Lobachevsky.
and, xara, re Be prepared: the liner notes say that the Police Commissioner in Queensland (one of our more forward-looking States) advised Mr Lehrer not to sing the song; however, he did so and the Boy Scout movement continued to thrive.
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>I thought it was an open comment
No worries, I suppose they all should be open comments.
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>I thought it was an open comment
No worries, I suppose they all should be open comments.They are. Open to misinterpretation. 
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Oh, Dear! So many things I want to take up - like the man on the way to San Jose, I've been away too long, too long. would a man have cared about the subject so much to have said that?Yes, I know men who care enough to say that - have been there when they've said it. PLenty of men in the Trades Union care a great deal, I have found. (As well as even more who use female rights/equality issues as a platform to boost their male egos!) The Women's Studies course at Lancaster Uni usually has one or two males on it - whjo invariably get a bad time from the militant femininsts on the course, but who care deeply for the cause of equal ops, etc. (end of rant ) Lobachesky Nicholai Ivanovich Lobachesky was his name! Be Prepared was a wickedly funny send up of the Boy Scout movement, full of "advice" to young men starting out and about to "slide down the razor-blade of life." It include the advice, "Don't solicit for your sister, it's notnice/ Unless you get a fair percentage of her price."; "Don't write dirty words on walls if you can't spell,"; and finished with the absolutely invaluable advice to any young man, "If you're looking for adventure of a new and different kind,/ And you find a fellow Girl-Scout who is si ilarly inclined, / Don't bashful, don't be nervous, don't be scared: / BE PREPARED !
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> It is often said that men and women use English in different ways.
Hi Bingley,
You had started the thread with above sentence. I was wondering whether you know anything more about this? I tried to LIU but could not develop a proper search string. Thanks
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It is often said that men and women use English in different ways.
Hi Bingley,
You had started the thread with above sentence. I was wondering whether you know anything more about this? I tried to LIU ...
Avy, I can't speak for what Bingley meant, but I thought of an example I once heard, relating to the way we get (or don't get) our expectations across. A wife tells her husband the light bulb above the sink needs to be changed.
He says uh huh, and continues on about his business. These lines are repeated every night for a week, until she finally explodes and says Why in the world haven't you changed that light bulb? And he says, in honest perplexity,
why didn't you ask me to?
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>I tried to LIU
Hi Avy
I think think the key is "it is often said" ... Any UK or US (I expect) bookshop is full of shelves of books on the subject. Have a browse around Amazon.com or your favourite on-line bookshop and you'll find tomes on the subject.
"Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" is looking a bit dog-eared now but has spawned (those fishy words keep coming up!) myriads of sucessors. Add to that a few thousand academic theses and you could be buried in paper for some time.
And the conclusion to all that: "It is often said that men and women use English in different ways".
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Avy
Jo's analysis is excellent, but I'm not sure if I'd be happy to leave you with the notion that Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus is some sort of standard reference text. For really good writing on the difference between male and female communication styles, I'd recommend Deborah Tannen. Her two books That's not what I meant and You just don't understand are brilliantly insightful and informative. The latter focuses solely upon male-female differences, while the former is more general - dealing with all sorts of cultural variations in conversational style. Importantly, neither is full of simplistic analyses, or easy solutions.
She has also, more recently, published a book called The Argument Culture. I haven't read it (yet?), but it may be worth seeking out - almost definitely available on Amazon et al.
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