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#79713 09/04/02 05:16 PM
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One of many things the alchemists sought was the universal solvent, the alkahest.
Perhaps it is just as well they never found it, for what could they have stored it in?
alkahest
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5Fr < ML alchahest: apparently coined by PARACELSUS the hypothetical universal solvent
sought by the alchemists





#79714 09/18/02 01:24 AM
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If you found something to put it in, then it wouldn't have been the alkahest. I love it. I wonder if they thought about that back in the day.

Though I suppose it could be, if it were something that was mixed on-site for immediate use. I vaguely remember having to mix some things years back, which came with directions to use immediately, because the container you mixed it in wouldn't last very long. Couldn't a substance still be an alkahest, if it didn't matter how *fast* it worked upon the substances it was in contact with?

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Dear Seian: good to see you posting again. We need all the talent we can get.


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what could they have stored it in?

Back then, nothing. Today, with the magic of electromagnetics and ionization, nothing. But today that method could work.


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If you poured (an, the, some?) alkahest onto the ground would it ever stop sinking, or would it disappear through chemical reaction?


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poured it out of what? how could you make it in the first place without it instantly dissolving the beaker, or what ever alchemists use for these things.


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instantly dissolving the beaker

Of course, it wouldn't have to dissolve it instantly. OTOH, what would happen if you were to introduce some thiotimoline into your alkahest?


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what would happen if you were to introduce some thiotimoline into your alkahest?

It would depend on what you were about to do with the thiotimoline.


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Well, a universal solvent would be the ultimate paradox, wouldn't it?...since it would also have to dissolve itself. But that never stopped the alchemists before..."burning metal", "turning lead into gold" (transmutation)...

which leads one to believe they must have been onto something else which we can't fathom (or good drugs)...the ol' Philosopher's Stone. Unfortunately, I believe any recorded texts of their earliest work disappeared in the burning of the Library of Alexandria. Perhaps all their ensuing research was an attempt to recapture what was lost there???

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it would also have to dissolve itself.

Naw. Think about what dissolving means and what you'd have left over after something dissolved itself.


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