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#73772 07/25/02 01:06 PM
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In Mexico, they have churros

Ah, now you're talking, Connie!

I know nowt about crullers, but chocolate con churros is a great Spanish favourite...
[dribbling into the ever-expanding salivocean-e]


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> haven't lived. Well, not in wild, crazy, cosmopolitan Maidstone (EA)

me neither! It's life Jim, but not as we know it... ;)


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Topologically, we're all donuts

Nah - we're a lot more holey, Hyla.

Sponges, perhaps?




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Topologically, we're all donuts

Alimentary, dear Watson


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Holland, a country with more religious tolerence than england

True, but not for Catholicism. Because the tolerance was in large part a backlash against the Spanish Inquisition/Armada etc, and William of Orange was the man whose time had come:
http://www.hiptravelguide.com/amsterdam/php/article.php?sid=45

Of course, there's heavy irony that the Church of England was supposedly initiated as a means of escaping oppression and providing religious freedom. Before too long it's yet another dogma and means of controlling people (albeit, significantly, at a more local level). It was news to me that Separatism (Puritanism/Calvinism) kicked off with very similar admirable intentions - i.e. individual freedom of worship - but this makes perfect sense.
Tout ca change:
http://www.thirdway.org/files/world/mayflower.html

What was that Joni Mitchell song about circles?!


Ummm donuts... Halos, perhaps? Ah, Circles!
Yeah, OK, total digression, mea culpa.



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It's life Jim, but not as we know it... ;)

Could say the same for Wales.

Bloody good thing, too!



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What was that Joni Mitchell song about circles?

Here ya go, shona...one of my all-time favorites:


The Circle Game

by Joni Mitchell


Yesterday a child came out to wonder
Caught a dragonfly inside a jar
Fearful when the sky was full of thunder
And tearful at the falling of a star

Then the child moved ten times round the seasons
Skated over ten clear frozen streams
Words like when you're older must appease him
And promises of someday make his dreams

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game

Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now
Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town
And they tell him take your time it won't be long now
Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game

So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty
Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
There'll be new dreams maybe better dreams and plenty
Before the last revolving year is through

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game


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Is it called a Boston cream? Do people in Boston eat it, or did they invent it?

These are called Boston creams, and are modeled on the Boston cream pie, which is similar (cream, chocolate, custard, cake), but the bready part is baked rather than fried. In fact, it's more of a filled cake than a pie. People in Boston do eat them, they do call them that, but I lived in Beantown for 25 years and I've no idea if they were invented there.

For them what care (or who click on every link posted), a quick Yahoo search turned up this: http://www.joyofbaking.com/BostonCr.html, which gives a fairly plausible history.

As to churros y chocolate - there are few things better! The standard for chocolate in Madrid is that it has to be thick enough for the churro to stand up in it.


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Growing up in the midwest, we never had Boston creme pies. A cake donut with chocolate icing and a custard filling was always called a "Bismarck."

Anyone know why we do this?



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Ack! I never would have remembered this had you not mentioned it! The competing western-Canadian donut chain, Robin's Donuts, calls them Bismarcks instead of Boston Creams. Could it be the western-ness of this chain vs. the eastern-ness of Tim Hortons? Anyone know why Bismarck?


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