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#70171 - 05/17/02 09:47 AM Re: agonal breathing
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In the case of Romeo and Juliet it was diagonal breathing.


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#70172 - 05/17/02 10:12 AM Re: diagonal breathing
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In the case of Romeo and Juliet it was diagonal breathing.

Ha!!!!!!!!!! Very clever, though it falls apart since Romeo and Juliet weren't beasts--if, that is, agonal breathing is limited to last breaths of the beasts.


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#70173 - 05/17/02 10:24 AM Re: diagonal breathing
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Dear WW: Although as doc_comfort said, the term "agonal" breathing is seldom heard in hospitals, it occurs routinely but so often it is not recorded on chart.


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#70174 - 05/17/02 11:15 AM Re: diagonal breathing
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Actually, wwh, Doc Comfort wrote:

Oh, and I've never heard of agonal breathing.


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#70175 - 05/17/02 11:52 AM Re: diagonal breathing
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Dear WW: As I said, it is so routine it does not cause comment. I just had a thought. I said it was the brain center that caused it. I now think it is result of spinal centers being released from central control. I wonder if doc_comfort would think that a possible explanation.

With regard to spinal centers being actve after being released from control of brain, remember how a chicken's legs thrash for severa seconds after its head is chopped off.


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#70176 - 05/17/02 01:39 PM Post deleted by ewein
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#70177 - 05/17/02 01:55 PM Re: diagonal breathing
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Dear wwh,

Hate to be so disagreeable with you today, but a chicken's legs don't just thrash around. The whole bloody creature runs around. I've seen 'em. My granny used to chop their heads off--to my horror--and I'd sit there in the chicken yard watching this headless chicken run around till it slowed down and fell over. Absolutely horrifying to a small child.

'est 'egards,
'ord'ind That's my over and out with each of their heads chopped off


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#70178 - 05/17/02 02:00 PM Re: diagonal breathing
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Dear WW: at age six, after I had chopped chicken's head off, and it had proved its brain wasn't total source of leg movements, then I had to dip it in hot water, and pluck it. I minded that far worse than beheading it.

Come to think of it, "dehead" sounds more logical than "behead"

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#70179 - 05/17/02 02:01 PM Re: headless chickens
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True enough, WW. Not that I've ever seen such a phenomenon, or want to, but the Southern expression "running around like a chicken with its head cut off" has to have come from somewhere.


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#70180 - 05/17/02 02:19 PM Re: diagonal breathing
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You wrote, Bill:

Dear WW: at age six, after I had chopped chicken's head off, and it had proved its brain
wasn't total source of leg movements, then I had to dip it in hot water, and pluck it.


This goes to prove that them that goes into medicine is different from them that doesn't. At bloody six years of age you could chop a chicken's head off?????? I would have fainted if I'd been required to do so--I used to pass out at Loftan's nosebleeds, no joke, I am so sensitive to the sight of blood.

You were one tough little nut, you know? I'm still recovering from that photograph on the hamate site that showed the hole in the patient's hand where the hamate had been excised--feeling a little queasy right now remembering it...

Blood regards,
WordWoozy


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