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#62578 - 04/09/02 10:25 PM Re: window sill licker
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Dear of troy: You got the general idea about chelation. But it acts by sequestering the metal where it is no longer biologically active. The chelate compound may break down very slowly. I think the general idea is similar to way iron is in center of hemoglobin molecule. Haven't read about it for fifty years. I'll see if I can find a good URL about it.

It was late and I goofed.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/DDIL/chelation.htm

Here is a very good URL. Very hard reading though. I'll give a handpainted medal to anybody who can read it and comprehend it. Other younger physicians excepted.


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#62579 - 04/10/02 08:56 AM Re: window sill licker
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Here is a very good URL[sic]. Very hard reading though. I'll give a handpainted medal to anybody who can read it and comprehend it

And well deserved the medal will be.


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#62580 - 04/10/02 09:12 AM Re: window sill licker
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And well deserved the medal will be.

Why, Faldage, I understood every single word perfectly! In fact, it may have been a first for me! Do I get the medal?

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#62581 - 04/10/02 09:44 AM Re: window sill licker
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I understood every single word perfectly!

Mebbe I need new glasses. I saw not only no words but also no URL to lead me to those no words.


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#62582 - 04/10/02 10:09 AM Re: window sill licker
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Faldage,

You'd need very special glasses to read those nonentitied words I read on wwh's URL. But what was there, I read perfectly.

WW


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#62583 - 04/10/02 05:08 PM Re: window sill licker
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but, getting back to your concern about lead, dubya, dubya, i don't think you have much to worry about.. your mind still seems very sharp, and the other most common symptom is irritability-- a trait i have not noticed in you.

when questioned about irratability, my friend with lead poisoning answered Yes!-- when asked the symptom onset, he replied Age two.( his lead poisoning was directly related to refinishing all the woodwork in his old house, and total adult onset!)

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#62584 - 04/10/02 06:48 PM Re: window sill licker
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Dear of troy: I confess to knowing rather little about lead poisoning. I do think it very unlikely that lead intake at age two that caused no recognized symptoms at that age could cause symptoms in an adult. There are some ways in which essentially asymptomatic lead deposits in an adult can be mobilized and cause symptoms, but I cannot recall the details. I'll see if I can find anything on Internet.


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#62585 - 04/10/02 08:00 PM Re: window sill licker
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Dear of troy: All I could find was this one brief mention of lead poisoning symptoms occuring in adult because of loss of bone associated with age. A male who may have lead locked up in his bone, but through poor diet (low calcium and phosphate intake) and for lack of exercise loses bone mass, could mobilize enough lead to cause symptoms.

"There is also speculation that adult neurotoxic effects may occur
when lead is released from the bone as part of the aging process. "


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#62586 - 04/10/02 08:25 PM Re: window sill licker
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Im sorry, dr bill, obviously, i wasn't clear, but his lead poisoning was adult onset to to adult exposure; refinishing woodwork on an old house. the old paint on woodwork contained lead.

but he had been iratable since the age of 2-- no relationship to his lead poisoning!

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#62587 - 04/10/02 09:52 PM Re: window sill licker
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Then I must say there's no fool like an old fool.But the stuff is so sneaky. We have mentioned pewter mugs,lead glazed ceramics. My family had a very old English coin, bigger than the old siver dollar that was used as pacifier for babies for so many years that a larg part of it was markedly thinned. It was so heavy I don't think it was all silver.
Mercury is another hazard. I read a horrible case not long ago, of highly qualified lady chemist wearing gloves, spilled a mercury compound, that went through her intact gloves so fast, that in spite of immediate trip to emergency ward, she died.


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