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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 . #58976 02/27/02 07:20 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: double entendre #58977 02/27/02 09:07 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Interesting, tsuwm. It looks as though the French use entente. I found the following in "Dictionnaire Universel Francophone © 1997 HACHETTE/EDICEF pour les bases de données dictionnairiques et la version réseau. - © 1997 AUPELF-UREF pour les ajouts scientifiques et l'adaptation lexicographique des bases. - © 1997 Claude Poirier pour la base lexicographique "Amérique du Nord"." Unfortunately, it doesn't give an etymology. entente n. f. 1. Mot, phrase à double entente, que l'on peut comprendre, interpréter de deux façons. Note: all real French speakers, please correct my interpretations as needed! This means: Word, phrase ...that can be understood, interpreted in two ways. ====================================================== entendre v. tr. I. 1. Litt. Percevoir le sens de, saisir par l'intelligence, comprendre. Literally, to perceive the sense of, to know by intelligence, to understand. Nowhere under this word did the dictionary use the phrase double entendre. ===================================================== Here's something interesting--I don't think the last line really needs translating. Thresor de la langue française (1606) entente (236) Mettre toute son entente, Acriter animum intendere. Mettre son entente à fouyr puis, Conferre animum ad fodiendos puteos. Respondre à deux ententes, Perplexe respondere, Respondere suspensa et ambigua, et vtroque flexibilia, B. This Dictionary of Other Times had no mention of double entendre. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/ARTFL/projects/dicos/ Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: double entendre #58978 02/27/02 10:46 PM A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Wow, thanks for that, J! =) does your dictionary by chance include "equivoque"? that word sounds to me like it might a "real" french word. as an aside, another term to describe a dilogical statement is "amphibolous". i just like the way it sounds. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter re: "amphibolous" #58979 02/28/02 02:55 AM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 866 Perth, Western Australia stales old hand stales old hand Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 866 Perth, Western Australia An amphibole is a family of dark coloured (dark green to black), iron and/or magnesium rich minerals. Obviously the words have the same root (?) Please let me in on why........(showing my monoglottedness......) stales Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: re: "amphibolous" #58980 02/28/02 03:45 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Monarchs are amphibolous, because they've got two. Monorchs are one shy. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Is this a double entendre? #58981 02/28/02 10:46 AM Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York R Rubrick addict Rubrick addict R Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York A number of sites include double entendres as a form of sexual harassment. So beware. Both ways, I presume. Some of the women I work with can be wicked. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: double entendre #58982 02/28/02 03:42 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Thank you, Caradea--I love to learn things so painlessly! Again, no trans. needed. Oh--plusieurs is several. équivoque adj. et n. f. I. adj. 1. Susceptible de plusieurs interprétations. Comportement équivoque. Termes équivoques. 2. Péjor. Qui n'inspire pas confiance. Réputation, allure équivoque. Syn. louche, suspect. II. n. f. Expression, situation laissant dans l'incertitude. Parler, agir sans équivoque. Syn. ambiguïté. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: double entendre #58983 02/28/02 03:52 PM Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York R Rubrick addict Rubrick addict R Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York équivoque adj. et n. f. I. adj. 1. Susceptible de plusieurs interprétations. Comportement équivoque. Termes équivoques. 2. Péjor. Qui n'inspire pas confiance. Réputation, allure équivoque. Syn. louche, suspect. II. n. f. Expression, situation laissant dans l'incertitude. Parler, agir sans équivoque. Syn. ambiguïté. Ah, louche. This was the word of the day way back on July 16th last year. louche (loosh) adjective Of questionable character; dubious; disreputable. [From French louche, cross-eyed, from Old French lousche, feminine of lois, from Latin lusca, feminine of luscus, one-eyed.] Would perjury have emanated from the French word Péjor? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: double entendre #58984 02/28/02 04:03 PM Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 322 Toronto, Canada B boronia enthusiast boronia enthusiast B Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 322 Toronto, Canada I believe that 'Pejor.' in the definition is just a label for 'pejorative use', not a word itself Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter worse and worse #58985 02/28/02 04:07 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,534 Likes: 1 Worcester, MA W wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,534 Likes: 1 Worcester, MA Pejor...just a label for 'pejorative use', not a word itself Not so sure about that. I never learned the word in French class, but in Spanish there is "pejor" (worse), the antonym of "mejor" (better), and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that there is a similar word in French with a common Latin root in all three languages. 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