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...Kenny G, the main flag bearer for the genre. (E.A.)You'll have to be more specific than that! 
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keiva: The Maple Leaf Rag was Joplin's first commercial success and kicked off the ragtime era. musick: The notion that the Ragtime era (or any other era (for that matter)) was kicked off by a specific composition is generalized historical ridiculousness... Appreciate your polite disagreemnt with me, musick, but trust me: I checked, and the authorities share my view. It is particularly important because of the historical importance of ragtime, "the first truly indigenous popular music in the United States, and the first music that actually spawned entertainment as the viable business enterprise it has become today." Maple Leaf Rag ... It was an immediate hit, selling more than a million copies of sheet music in the next few years. ... its popularity marks the beginning of the ragtime era
1899: Scott Joplin's "Maple Leaf Rag" is published, sparking an international craze for Ragtime's syncopated rhythmshttp://www.dlib.org/dlib/september01/09featured-collection.htmlhttp://www.wcal.org/archives/dramerica/america_mapleleafrag.htmlhttp://makeashorterlink.com/?T41625D6
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Finally! A Zild anthem I can relate to! BTW, didn't the alleged author of the original hail from your turangawaewae?Well, stamping ground if not marae, anyway ... 
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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Didn't mean to lead you astray, CK, but The Maple Leaf Forever is not our national anthem. (That honour goes to O Canada, which was originally written by a couple of French-Canadians, in fact!) It's just a vaguely patriotic (and upon re-reading, a bit Anglo-Saxon oriented) song about the maple leaf. Apparently (the government web page gives info) it wasn't much loved by Francophones, but was pretty popular outside Québec. I only posted about it because it's on my current rotation of "songs to play to death on the piano".
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TEd quoth: They actually "buried" him in the open, and every winter the Beach Boys sing about him:
My Woody's outside, covered with snow
New York's a lonely town.....Gosh! I read that post to my husband, and he cringed. Down here in de souf, a "woody" is a -- oh, sorry. This reply actually belongs under that puppetry thread.  Tsyganka
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Your use of the word "authorities" is what lacks trust from me... of course I trust you believe your *proofs have backing. Maple Leaf Rag ... It was an immediate hit, selling more than a million copies of sheet music in the next few years. ... its popularity marks the beginning of the ragtime era So when exactly do you/they mark the beginning of the ragtime "era", when "it" sold the millionth copy? It is interesting that your 'so-called' authorities make such a clean point in time when actually® ragtime music, specifically "syncopated" piano music, was popular for "quite a while" before Joplin's Maple Leaf. It's about the words used to explain, not the obvious facts. History continues to make its notches in the wall as it seeks to understand things out of context and teach them that way, which is, as I first said, generalized historical ridiculouness (probably not the 'best' words to describe "it"). I suppose you still believe Columbus discovered America? I suppose you'd also believe we are now in the post 9/11 terrorist era (as opposed to the pre-9/11 terrorists era)? I'd be more inclined to use the words 'we are in the post Kyoto(sp?) treaty era'. Convenient definitions of understanding history are just that to and for those that use them. I'm not ignoring a specific events significance, but if you look at the nice little collection of information included in your "shorterlink" source it only has one reference to ragtime music. I hope my point is becoming clearer. You and I use words differently and understand them differently. It would be arrogant of me to not attempt to understand your *perspective... but that does include *looking beyond the words used.
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isn't a woody a 1948 jeep, gussed up with wooden panels on the side?
or if not a jeep some sort of station wagon? from back when the idea of a station wagon was a vehicle you used to pick up stuff delivered F.O.B. (Hi ya Seattle!) to the RR station.
and as for where woody guthry is buried.. i don't have a clue. he died on the (i used to know the floor)floor of Credmore hospital. its with in walking distance (a long walk, but not a very long walk)
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isn't a woody a 1948 jeep, gussed up with wooden panels on the side? or if not a jeep some sort of station wagon?
In my vocabulary it is a station wagon with wooden panels on the side. I get the feeling we should get asking around to get a feel for the regional variations in use of the term "woody". Non-naughty uses, that is!
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