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Ok, CK, I finally buckled down and did my homework. It bothers the heck out of me to read that Raleigh landed on Roanoke, Virginia. Roanoke Island is part of North Carolina. But I have to concede that when he was there, it was VA.


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Jackie, if you ever visit the Governor's Palace in Williamsburg, you will see a map of the U.S. drawn before the American Revolution. It shows that everything south of Maryland and west of the Atlantic ocean, and north of Maryland and west of Pennsylvania, with the exceptions of Georgia, Florida and Louisiana, were claimed as part of Viginia -- all the way to the Mississippi river. In other words, Virginia claimed everyything which was not already another colony.


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The first permanent English settlement in what is now the United States was Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607, and capital of Virginia from 1607-1699. It was founded May 13, 1607, by the Virginia Company of London, on what was then a marshy peninsula (now Jamestown Island) of the James River, about 32 miles from its mouth.

Roanoke, Virginia, is very much inland in the southwestern part of the state. Roanoke Island, the site of the 1587 settlement, is indeed located on the barrier island chain (the Outer banks) of North Carolina just behind Nags Head and about 50 miles south of Virginia. Prior to 1663, this territory was all considered Virginia. The Roanoke Colony name applied to a famous land grant of the Crown. In 1587 Sir Walter Raleigh, having obtained a large grant of land from Queen Elizabeth, sent out, April 9, seven vessels and 108 settlers under the command of Sir Richard Grenville. After skirting the West Indies and Hispaniola (dressing all the natives there in skirts ), they landed at Roanoke, in North Carolina, June 20. Ralph Lane was left in charge of the settlement and Grenville returned to England. During the following winter Lane made numerous exploring expeditions and suffered greatly from Indian attacks. In the spring he received some aid in men and supplies from Sir Francis Drake, but finally persuaded Drake to take them home. Soon after Grenville arrived with new settlers. These had been destroyed by the Indians when, in 1587, a new colony of Raleigh's, under an officer named John White, came out. White himself returned to England. When he came back in 1591 he found the colony vanished (the fabled Lost Roanoke Colony)--but the strange word "Croatan" was carved on a doorpost.
The Lost Colony of Roanoke remains one of the foremost archaeological mysteries in North America (along with the disappearance of the Anasazi).


In 1663 Charles II granted a charter to 8 English gentlemen who had helped him to regain the crown. The territory was called Carolina in honor of Charles the First ("Carolus" is the Latin form of "Charles"). There you go, Dr. Bill, Carolina has Latin roots!
Dates on the Roanoke settlement vary by a year or two in some accounts, as early as 1585, and some trimming the final disappearance back to 1590.

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In 1863 Charles II granted a charter to 8 English gentlemen ....

Did they dig 'im up to do it, special, loike?

The Charlie II I know of might have been in the charter-granting business in, oh, say, 1663, though. Oh well, WO'N, at least it was an even numbered century ...

I can't remember if the plaque mentioned Virginia explicitly. But, as has been said above, Virginia was most of that area at the time anyway, so Virginia it was.

And, yus, I do know that Roanoke, Virginia, is well inland. We stayed there in late July last year after braving the Shenandoah Valley.



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1663

Okay, CK...I fixed it! I guess Charles II wouldn't've been giving out land grants in the middle of the American Civil War, huh? Oh, well...it was getting late...and what's 200 years, more or less?


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at least it was an even numbered century

As our bold expat Kiwi waits, with baited breath, for the resident pedantic nitpicker to say, "Odd!"


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Ewww... you mean to say CapK has a worm on his tongue?


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Or either a piece of cheese, one.


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A double-whammy - the bad-cop, bad-cop routine. Unoriginal, but ...



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the bad-cop, bad-cop routine

Hey, one bad cop deserves another.


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