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#52494 - 01/12/02 08:38 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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Glaysiated v. Glayshiated?

The "sh" is a more cutting sound--there's more push in it--more of a shovel in it--than in the "s," a weak sibilant here at best.

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#52495 - 01/12/02 10:47 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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"sh" is a more cutting sound

You gotta be kidding. "Sh" is a sound you use to put a baby to sleep. "Ssssss" is the sound of a canoe sliding down a glacier almost carrying you across the road and sending you to certain death in the valley below, littered with glacial pebbles the size of houses but so far away they look like pebbles.


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#52496 - 01/12/02 11:07 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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Faldage, if you can't feel the force of the "sh" in push, then your imagination is turned off.

This is a matter of dynamics and delivery:

"Sh's" a lot of things--a lot of forces--"sh" at pianissimo is just right for that babe in arms--but, give it a fortissimo--and you've got the force of football--push 'em back, push 'em back, way back!--and at 10,000 times fortissimo, you've got your glacier pushing, too. Glaysher, that is.

However, all that said, I liked a great deal what you wrote about that canoe, though it's no glacier.

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#52497 - 01/12/02 11:14 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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I pronounce glacier "glaa-seer". But then I'm Zildian.

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#52498 - 01/12/02 11:35 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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Dear CK: I remember very clearly a TV series David Attenbury presented on PBS twenty years ago, in which he pronounced the big ice sheet word as "glasher" as in basher dasher, lasher, masher. Wonderful series, amazing guy.


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#52499 - 01/12/02 11:42 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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I remember very clearly a TV series David Attenbury presented on PBS twenty years ago, in which he pronounced the big ice sheet word as "glasher" as in basher dasher, lasher, masher. Wonderful series, amazing guy.

Didn't know that David Attenborough had such good competition! Attenborough and I pronounce the word "glacier" the same way.

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#52500 - 01/12/02 11:43 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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One more glacier word. When the ice sheet forced medium sized stones to slide across large areas of stone that could not move, deep scratches were left in the stone surfaces on the bottom. These scratches are called "striae", and show the direction in which the ice sheet was moving.


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#52501 - 01/12/02 11:54 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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Dear CK: Joke on me. I searched for "David Attenbury" because I was not sure of spelling, and got a thing about "birds" and wrongly surmised it was the BBC TV marvel David Attenborough. But I do remember very clearly how he pronounced the word: glasher. I say again, marvelous series, admirable man.


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#52502 - 01/12/02 11:54 AM Re: Glaciers....?
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the force of the "sh" in push

It's the pop of the p in push that gives it the force. The sh is the sound of it shlooshing to a stop like someone silly enough to think that it's a neat idea to put on 30 lbs of equipment so that he won't know he's been hurt when someone 50 lbs heavier than he has popped him back.


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#52503 - 01/12/02 12:05 PM Re: Glaciers....?
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It's the pop of the p in push that gives it the force. The sh is the sound of it shlooshing to a stop like someone silly enough to think that it's a neat idea to put on 30 lbs of equipment so that he won't know he's been hurt when someone 50 lbs heavier than he has popped him back.
Bolding deliberately left out. I couldn't be bothered.

Are you saying that "push" is exclusive to American sports?

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