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#50767 12/28/01 02:03 PM
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Dear Faldage,

So give us Whitman's line. I'm blank here.

Cranky Blank,
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Thanks, Wordwind! I never knew the musical connotation of crwth! This is from The Folkies' Dictionary on OneLook:

crwth (Welsh, pron. "crooth") also known as "crowd", this is a Welsh bowed lyre used by the bards. Three or four strings in its rectangular frame was common. Illustrations from the 11th century show it, and it's probably much older than that. With the decline of the bardic tradition, it was largely gone by the 19th century. It's all up to the period players now.

And forgive me for not knowing that, Faldagium.



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WW

You quoted *my quote of Whitman's line.

crwth

A noun in Welsh meaning crowd.



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And where does that come from? I don't know this quote, quite, quite obviously.

This is ironic, isn't it?

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WW (and that's not Walt Whitman.


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Dear WhitmanO'Nigium,

Thanks for the bone! My gray matter has been most amply acknowledged.

Sighing from the Conundrum,
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Did all of you remember that "crowder" used to be used as equivalent of "fiddler". For dictionary to check this see:

http://machaut.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/WEBSTER.page.sh?PAGE=349


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Dear wwh:

And I promise not to post on this thread again today!! Honest!!

My gray matter also tells me that the crwth became to be known as the "crowd." So, your post doesn't surprise me in the least. It simply and amply confirms.

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well, once again it turns out that the crowd, which is indeed the English version of crwth, is an entirely different word from that which we are accustomed to -- some who have bandied crwth around (including the OSPD) probably never bothered to look up crowd.

An ancient Celtic musical instrument of the viol class, now obsolete, having in early times three strings, but in its later form six, four of which were played with a bow and two by twitching with the fingers; an early form of the fiddle.

Grove Dict. Mus. Crwth or Crowd, as far as we know the oldest stringed instrument played with the bow... Bingley heard it played at Carnarvon as late as 1801; but it is now entirely out of use.

Dylan Thomas Under Milk Wood (1954) He intricately rhymes, to the music of crwth and pibgorn.


...Bingley??


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At last: a post, titled regarding paramecia, that actually refers to paramecia.

So we say a paramecium is asexual, not gender-free.
Well, Duh! It's neuter. Paramecium. Hello?

Actually, by understanding is that paramecia can reproduce either asexually (by division) or "sexually", by fusion of the genetic matter of two separate individuals. Furthermore, the choice is not random. A colony of paramecia, left undisturbed, will reproduce by fission, by an individual dividing into two. But if a separate colony -- a separate population -- is introduced, then the mode switches over to fusion, and consistently, the fusing pairing-paramecium will be from opposite colonies; an individual will not fuse with a member of its own colony. In other words, the species appears to express a reproductive preference in favor of genetic diversity.


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Theodore Sturgeon, the science fiction writer

who had the temerity to publish a collection of short stories under the title "Caviar, by Sturgeon". I'm not sure I've yet forgiven him for that. Or maybe it was his publisher who should take the heat/get the credit?


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