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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 6 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Re: Walkman/Pokemon? #4787 08/17/00 10:38 AM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia J johnjohn member johnjohn member J Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia <Walkman> Well if it's going to be generic it's just got be "Walkperson"............. (or should that be in the PC thread.....) (or should it be "TransportPerson" so as not to offend against people unable to walk.........) Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Pokemon #4788 08/17/00 10:43 AM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia J johnjohn member johnjohn member J Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia <I have a mongoose. And, oh yes, and I have another one.> "My mother thinks I'm mad because I like pancakes" - "There's nothing mad about that, I like pancakes too" "Really? Do you want to come up and see my collection??" [JJ goes off chuckling softly....." Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Walkman/Pokemon? #4789 08/17/00 01:41 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 W william OP enthusiast OP william enthusiast W Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 thanks bridget! yes, there are so many abbreviated words in japanese. wapuro (word processor), pasocom (personal computer), no-to (notebook computer), ruku (rucksack), iemon (yellow monkey - pop group)... abbreviation is an art form. it even depends on the area. in sendai mcdonalds is "maku" but in other parts of japan it's "makudo" or something. i remember being amazed that sydneysiders called orange juice "o.j.", and potato cakes "scallops". how do you tell the difference between real scallops and potato cakes? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Walkman/Pokemon? #4790 08/17/00 01:48 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 W william OP enthusiast OP william enthusiast W Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 karaoke is another abbreviation, but i think this is famous. it apparently means "empty orchestra". the kara is the same as "kara"te -"empty" hand. oke is from o-kesutora. this one has always sounded far fetched to me. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: gained in the translation #4791 08/17/00 09:34 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Bridget, thank you for that! I too enjoy the foibles of back-and-forth translation (try altavista's babelfish). What follows is slightly off-topic, since it involves Hungarian and not Japanese, but for those who have not yet seen the Budapest interview with Madonna (while she was filming "Evita") as extrapolated by Gary Trudeau in Time magazine, I offer this link (not for the weak of heart): http:// http://www.time.com/time/magazine/archive/1996/dom/960520/essay.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter japanese verbs #4792 08/29/00 02:58 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 W william OP enthusiast OP william enthusiast W Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 just wanted to share some interesting verbs from japanese with you. often a verb is made with a "ru" ending, meaning a kanji with a "ru" sound tacked on the end. the "ru" is the part that changes with tense. in this way, verbs are quite distinctive sounds (unlike english) and so can be created easily. a mainstream one using a foreign word is "saboru". the "sabo" comes from sabotage, and the verb means to wag school or to bludge at work. some newer ones not in dictionaries are "tabaru" to smoke, "copiru" to make a photocopy, and "memoru" to take a memo. to me, that is linguistic wizardry. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: japanese verbs #4793 08/29/00 03:13 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >linguistic wizardry but this smacks of the wlatsome verbing that goes on in English (to wit, productize) where perfectly serviceable words already exist (i.e., produce). Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: japanese verbs #4794 08/29/00 04:28 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 W william OP enthusiast OP william enthusiast W Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 >>this smacks of the wlatsome verbing that goes on in English ha ha ha! you know i don't object to "verbing" in english, as long as it's not done with self importance. there are certainly some people who object to this in japanese too. it's hardly "pure" japanese. i guess the really useless inventions will die, and the wizardric ones will survive (and live to become "pure" in a future time when conservationists object to their being changed to vulgarities)! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: japanese verbs #4795 08/29/00 06:04 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky What in the world are 'wag' and 'bludge'. please? And, wlatsome? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: japanese verbs #4796 08/30/00 10:48 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 460 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia P paulb addict paulb addict P Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 460 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia < wag school or to bludge at work> wag = to absent yourself from school unofficially bludge = to loaf, to impose on someone, orig. to act as a harlot's bully [Sidney Baker, The drum: Australian character and slang] Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 6 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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