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#41039 - 09/09/01 08:27 PM
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#41040 - 09/09/01 10:38 PM Re: Artificial Stupidity?
Jackie Offline
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Max, that was hysterically funny! Thank you for providing that humorous link.


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#41041 - 09/10/01 09:42 AM Re: Artificial Stupidity?
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Nonetheless, the article is, in CapK's humble opinion, quite right.

Well, now, in classic NYC cocktail party tradition, I haven't actually® read either article yet. And I think that attempts to simulate anything as poorly understood as human intelligence are doomed. I just wouldn't want to accept the ravings of someone who cavalierly categorizes Stephen Hawking as a "popular-science oracle" without having read the ravings of the "popular-science oracle" himself. My local newsstand didn't have a copy of the relevant issue of Focus and the on-line edition doesn't give access to the cover story.


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#41042 - 09/10/01 12:11 PM Deprived
Jackie Offline
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Shame on y'all for not realizing immediately that alpha privative meant a-!
Excuse me for not being able to guess, based on a language I've never studied, then. My first guess would probably have been "deprived of an a", which makes no more sense to me than alpha privative did!


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#41043 - 09/10/01 12:16 PM Re: Depraved
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Excuse me for not being able to guess

Where's that sarcasm icon when you really need it...

Oh, wai, wait. There it is </board/images/icons/tongueincheek.gif>


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#41044 - 09/11/01 10:51 AM Re: Look out, folks, I've read them both.
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Reminds me of some of the book reviews in the New York Times Book Review, with hardly anything about the book supposedly being reviewed; the book seeming to be little more than a springboard for the reviewer's pet hobby horse.

I saw nothing in the whiff of the original interview that Mr. Greene in Washington chose to waft before our collective nose that suggests that Mr Hawking thinks that we can simulate human intelligence. I would like to see the original interview and preferably in what I would assume was the original English and not an English translation of the German translation that I would guess is what Mr. Greene in Washington had to work with.

As for being able to deal with machine intelligence, whatever that means, I find it about as radical an idea as the idea that we be able to control the speed a direction of a motor vehicle.


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#41045 - 09/17/01 05:27 PM Re: Artificial Stupidity?
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Well, now, in classic NYC cocktail party tradition, I haven't actually® read either article yet. And I think that attempts to simulate anything as poorly understood as human intelligence are doomed. I just wouldn't want to accept the ravings of someone who cavalierly categorizes Stephen Hawking as a "popular-science oracle" without having read the ravings of the "popular-science oracle" himself. My local newsstand didn't have a copy of the relevant issue of Focus and the on-line edition doesn't give access to the cover story.

No, you're quite right, Faldage. My point was merely to say that I agreed with the on-line version's rationale for it being impossible to artificially reproduce human thought processes. Nothing more.

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