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#40300 - 09/03/01 06:46 AM Re: JELLY
jimthedog Offline
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Nor did the discovery that some people combine chocolate and... erp, excuse me......
Marshmallows and crackers? It tastes fine!



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#40301 - 09/03/01 07:45 AM Re: JELLY-Jell-O
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My Associated Press Style Book gives the proper (brand) name of the wriggley desert as Jell-O. ?

Is this becoming (Horrors!) a food thread?


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#40302 - 09/03/01 10:42 AM Re: JELLY
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confirms an ineradicable impression that Americans will eat anything.

Excuse me? Blood pudding, tripe. Ahem


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#40303 - 09/03/01 12:08 PM weird sounding food
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Bingley, I had never, ever thought about jelly as gelatin, in a sandwich! How perfectly bazaar it must have sounded!

and peanut butter its self, is a food, that tend to be a love/hate it food.. I remember the first time i had it.. my mother was in the hospital, giving birth to my sister, and during the day, neighbors provided "day care". I loved it! and cried and cried for my mother to buy it. She hated it. the sight of it, and the smell, and i am sure she never tasted it! but it was cheap, and nutritious, and she gave in.

But, "peanut butter and jelly sandwiches" must have sounded strange, indeed!

It's interesting how the name of food can effect us.. we always called it black pudding.. and it wasn't till i was grown that i knew it to be blood sausage.. and a local indonesian restaurant calls one of the dishes "pig intestines in chili sauce"-- which sound much less appetizing than "chitterlings* in hot gravy".
*chitterlings = chit'lins (US and ???)


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#40304 - 09/03/01 12:43 PM Re: weird sounding food
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My father would eat nothing made with gelatine, claiming that a principal starting material was horses' hoofs.


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#40305 - 09/03/01 01:13 PM word as personal Synecdoche
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Okay, but is there a word that is a personal sort of Synecdoche? a word that conjures up a meaning, that perhaps is related to the actually meaning, but goes beyond, and has a personal treasure trove.

for me "jelly" rememind me of the summer spent in ireland, an learning a new vocabulary...

for bingley, the same word conjures up a world of stange people, eating even stranger food.. I suspect, that now days, he mentally translates "jelly", when he comes across it in a US english article, to "Jam"-- and might think "cream cheese and jelly" to be an odd combination, but but at least does not think it refers to some sort of dairy and gelatin dessert. it might be translated as "creme fraise and preserves, served on toast points" he might not even be put off.

Haven't you come across a word, that you either mis understood, or that started you down a path that lead to so much more? Max's thread on diphthongs is doing that now.. it is exploring language, geography, history, culture-- commonalities, and differernce in the whole of the south pacific!

Will you ever use the word diphthongs again, with out thinking about the Maaori language, and how it relates to the other languages in the area? hasn't diphthong become a word for us, that suggest more than a combination of vowel sounds?

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#40306 - 09/04/01 10:57 AM Re: Jelly is not preserves
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she asked for "jelly" on her bread. ... Geraldine could see the jar of strawberry preserves.
Nor is it jam.

In USn's us(e)age:

Jelly made from fruit juice etc.

Jam made from fruit etc., all boiled up till it is homgenous.

Preserve has intact pieces of fruit in it.

Marmalade has citrus rind in it.

What would be the Brit term for what USns call jelly?


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#40307 - 09/04/01 12:27 PM Re: Jelly is not preserves
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Jam made from fruit etc., all boiled up till it is homgenous.

And jam sometimes had the fruits' seeds in it as in raspberry jam and strawberry jam.

And what is the only fruit that carries its seeds on the outside? Strawberry.
(Or weren't you paying attention to that exchange beteen "President Bartlett" and his staff on "The West Wing?")

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#40308 - 09/04/01 12:30 PM Re: Jelly is not preserves
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jam sometimes had the fruits' seeds in it

Yeah, well, the seeds don't always boil up so good.

And some are easier to remove than others.


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#40309 - 09/04/01 12:33 PM Re: "Jam'n " on
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the seeds don't always boil up so good.
And some are easier to remove than others


Right on, Faldage!
Especially from between the teeth ... and boiling is not recommended for that!


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