#38004 - 08/07/01 09:01 PM
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Carpal Tunnel
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#38006 - 08/08/01 12:47 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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Anonymous
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fortunately, i am the child of a scientist, so my parents were acutely aware of the overwhelming presence of dihydrogen monoxide in our environment, and they had the forsight to introduce it to my diet in trace amounts from early on. believe it or not, i am now at the point where i can consume it in large quantities without any ill effects.
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#38007 - 08/08/01 05:02 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 08/23/00
Posts: 2204
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Is it this that makes you the person you are today? Should we take this as a dreadful warning? Or is this the way forward for all right-thinking parents who want an alternative to gentetic alterations to their offspring?  apologies for the use of an emoticon, which seems to be in an unpopular action just now, but I think it is justified in this case!
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#38008 - 08/08/01 07:54 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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old hand
Registered: 11/12/00
Posts: 819
Loc: Portland,Oregon, USA
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Good grief, Caradea, next you'll have us bathing in it!
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#38009 - 08/08/01 10:59 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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addict
Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 544
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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I was absolutely terrified to read about this dangerous substance, which appears to go unregulated (the page even had a link to the agency I work for, which seems to do nothing about this matter) and which is present in so many aspects of our lives. I was greatly relieved to find, hidden away at the bottom of the home page, the following:
Note: content veracity not implied
Thank heavens!
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#38010 - 08/08/01 11:23 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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addict
Registered: 02/13/01
Posts: 609
Loc: Portsmouth, United Kingdom
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Thanks Max for alerting us to this danger. I did some research locally to find out if my company uses the stuff and what procedures they have in place. I was horrified to find they have a huge open store of the stuff right outside my window, AND they let the local bird population swim on it. That explains the large number of feathers on the grass round this storage facility. Some of my rave-scene friends have told me that if you add some alcohol to this stuff it can give you a buzz, but that sounds dangerous to me.
Rod
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#38011 - 08/08/01 03:24 PM
Re: What's in a name?
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enthusiast
Registered: 03/16/00
Posts: 218
Loc: Mountain West, USA
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if you add some alcohol to this stuff it can give you a buzz,
but that sounds dangerous to me.
I know that if you snort it too much, it will likely kill you.
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#38012 - 08/08/01 03:39 PM
Re: What's in a name?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/14/01
Posts: 2379
Loc: New York City
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Laugh if you will, but small quantities of a form of this substance have reportedly exploded with devastating force in at least three continents, and in the Pacific. Hell will freeze over before I go near it.
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#38014 - 08/08/01 05:22 PM
Re: What's in a name?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/14/01
Posts: 2379
Loc: New York City
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<<Devil's Lake>>
Cincinnati to the power of ten!
(the sediments, 'ground zero' (sorry, Anna))
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#38015 - 08/08/01 05:46 PM
Re: What's in a name?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 01/18/01
Posts: 13858
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Hey;, tsuwm, how many Devil's Lakes are there? There was one on BBC news not long ago, with Canadians refusing to let it be drained into one of the Great Lakes because agricultural run-offs being hazardous to fish in the Lake. Only one I can find on Internet is in Wisconsin, but didn't show proximity to any Great Lake.
Anyhow, since I don't enjoy alcohol, I have consumed many, many gallons of Dihydrogen monoxide, with no ill effects. Doesn't cost much either. I even bathe in it. That site is all wet.
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#38016 - 08/08/01 08:08 PM
Re: What's in a name?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/03/00
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Loc: this too shall pass
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many man-made outlets for Devil's Lake have been proposed over the last few years, but they've all been rejected by Minnesota and/or Manitoba. the Canadians don't want it because of fears it would drain into the Red River (of the North) which flows north to Lake Winnepeg, no small lake itself. here's yet another link to this story: http://news.mpr.org/features/199906/08_gundersond_devil-m/p.s. - how many DLs are there? I don't know of any way to determine that. I do know of one in ND, MN, WI and MI, each. the ones in ND and MI actually have towns of that name.
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#38017 - 08/09/01 08:54 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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This danger has also been increasingly found menacing beaches all over the world: "The important lesson is when it comes to beach pollution, the more you look the more you find," said Heather Hoecherl, a lawyer with the council, a New York environmental group.
Increased rain in the Northeast, most of the Great Lakes States and Guam, also was a factor.http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/09/national/09BEAC.html
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#38018 - 08/09/01 10:56 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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addict
Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 544
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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how many DLs are there? I don't know of any way to determine that.
I should think the index in any decent atlas should provide this info - I'd look it up for you, but my atlas is one of those huge books made of dead trees, and its search function seems to be disabled.
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#38021 - 08/09/01 11:29 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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addict
Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 544
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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a searchable atlas that includes the half-million or so lakes in the US
A compelling point, tsuwm. When I posted I must have been drinking some of that dihydrogen monoxide stuff - further proof of its dangers.
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#38022 - 08/09/01 11:35 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 3439
Loc: New England, USA
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in nuclear power plants, ..U.S. Navy ...elite athletes...in biological and chemical weapons manufacture, abortion clinics ... home-brewed bombs... cult rituals... Church of Scientology on their members and members' families ... KKK and the NAACP during rallies and marches, ...pedophiles and pornographers ...clientele at a number of homosexual bath houses in New York City and San Francisco ...historically, in Hitler's death camps in Nazi Germany ...in prisons in Turkey, Serbia, Croatia, Libya, Iraq and Iran ..In World War II prison camps in Japan, and in prisons in China, for various forms of torture,
by the Serbian military as authorized by Slobodan Milosevic in their recent ethnic cleansing campaign,
in animal research laboratories, and
in pesticide production and distribution
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The above taken from the faqs on link all have a disturbing element of "hate" for certain segments of population. Did anyone else pick up on this or is paranoia taking over. (Just because I am NOT paranoid it doesn't follow they aren't really after me!)
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#38024 - 08/09/01 08:23 PM
Re: What's in a name?
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member
Registered: 01/15/01
Posts: 157
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I understand the dangers, but I think that if you are a responsible user of DHMO and understand the consequences, it's OK.
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#38025 - 08/09/01 09:17 PM
Re: Naming other names
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/13/01
Posts: 4189
Loc: Rio Grande, Cape May County, N...
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My initial vent of iffy humor here was just a knee-jerk reaction to another environmental cover-up...all of which sets me seething! Another one we've been fighting here, locally, in South Jersey, is Monsanto's marvelous "weed-killer" Roundup. Ostensibly used as a trade-off to allow the Salem Nuclear Plants to operate in violation of the Clean Water Act, and kill billions of fish annually on their intake ducts, is a farce called "Wetlands Mitigation" whereby they claim to be creating so many new acres of wetlands as a tradeoff for their No Cooling Tower deal (they're the only nuke plants in the country allowed to run without the required cooling towers!). Only problem is they've been spraying millions of gallons of Roundup on the marshes to eliminate phragmites as another part of the deal...but the treated areas are now devoid of all plant life, the Roundup effectively killing everything, leaving acres of dead brown tundra on what were once marshes. Also, as part of the "mitigation" they are turning freshwater wetlands into saltwater wetlands...but freshwater wetlands are rarer and, thus, now more environmentally crucial than saltwater wetlands! (Scream!-e) And there is no scientific evidence to demonstrate that the mitigation process has created any spawning opportunities above the norm to replace the annual fish slaughter. The old Salem and Hope Creek Nuclear plants are also the most accident prone and statistically dangerous in the country...should've been shut-down a long time ago. And the 2 Hope Creek plants are built on an artificial island of mud in the Delaware River over an old fault line...it is calculated that a 3.5 earthquake would sink the island and trigger a meltdown...there was a 2.7 temblor just two years ago. We're talking Wilmington, DE; New York; Atlantic City; Philadelphia; Baltimore; and Washington D.C. here folks! Ah, well...we tried fighting P S E & G and the NRC (a flunky in the pocket of the nuclear industry)...and we lost (so far...see the UNPLUG SALEM campaign at http://www.unplugsalem.org). Our freeholders wouldn't vote to suspend purchasing energy from the plants or pass a resolution asking for their closure. And, now, nuclear energy is back in vogue, at an even more cost effective level (shudder!)--meaning owners are investing in plants who don't know apes*** about their operation, and are planning to run them on smaller budgets...which reads less safety, less supervision. But as long as Monsanto can peddle their toxins, who cares? Now we have corn, soybeans, and other vegetables genetically immune to Roundup so Monsanto can sell only its product to farmers. But, then, eating chemicals is the Great American Pastime, isn't it? As long as it sells!  Well, there's my environmental rant for the month! Oops...now do we need an Environmental Thread alongside the thread for Politics?
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#38026 - 08/10/01 07:52 AM
Re: Naming other names
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enthusiast
Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 273
Loc: NZ
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In reply to:
But, then, eating chemicals is the Great American Pastime, isn't it? As long as it sells! Well, there's my environmental rant for the month!
"The water has really cleared up here in New York City. You know the
East River, it used to have a head on it. ... We have George W. Bush
to thank for this new clean water. Yeah, it's coming down from the
melted ice caps." ---David Letterman
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2001/08/06/tomo/index.html
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#38028 - 08/11/01 11:15 AM
Re: What's in a name?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/04/01
Posts: 2605
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aptly named Devil's Lake... the lake is polluted with this stuff
A Chicago waterway is still popularly called "Bubbly Creek" for its pollution back in the last half of the 1800's.
The beef slaughterhouses dumped their organic wastes into this creek. Gases from waste-decay constantly bubbled to the surface. "A great open sewer a hundred or two feet feet wide [with] all sorts of strange transformations[,] constantly in motion" Upton Sinclair, The Jungle, 1906
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