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those who came from the same area of Pennsylvania as she did. Which area did she come from?A small town called Mt. Carmel in the east-central part of the state. Not too far from the metropolis of Danville.
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It's not a word that comes up too much anyway, so you'd have to be lucky to spot it in a 1930s film or recording
NicholasW: I agree that the ui combination is not common, but I'm puzzled that you'd say ruin doesn't come up too much - and why the 1930s reference? My knowledge of language history leaves something to be desired!
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> 'im, etc.
Having grown up in the Great Plains (York Nebraska) and a mother from N'Jersey, I find that in casual speech, I make all of those contractions, 'cept I say "'im" rather than "'eem". N'fak(t), aih don' think aih pernounce mor'n tu thirds uh m'letters. Bothers me, but uh jus' don' have thuh patience t'try 'n' men' m'ways. Guess I'll have to settle for percise writin'.
On the other hand, sometimes the selective contractions actually add meaning. While it may be difficult to answer the question "How long is 'tu tu tu tu tu tu?', it's not near so difficult if the critical phrase is stated casually: "tu t'tu, t'tu-tu."
If you're still having trouble parsing the phrase, it contradicts my assertion and I'll spell it out for you: "two to two, to two-two."
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The ui diphthong is alive and well in Baltimore, where Druid Hill Park is pronounced "Droodle Park". This is not to be confused with the little tops used by Jewish children at Purim; that's a different diphthong.
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and why the 1930s reference?
I just mean that it's no longer a diphthong for most people, but early 20th-century dictionaries describe it as such. I can't recall hearing it among older speakers, and the other source of old pronunciations is films, newsreels, recordings.
To hear an example you'd have to watch a lot of old film or listen to a lot of old music-hall records on the off chance that someone said ruin, Druid, intuitive, or bruit -- and clearly enough to hear the diphthong.
But I can imagine it: "We're ruined. Do you hear me, Marjorie? Rrruined!"
These days I think they're all disyllables for almost everyone: ru-in, Dru-id, etc.; with how your pronounce the -in -id syllable dependent on your dialect.
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ruin, Druid, intuitive, or bruit Thanks! One more comment: No matter how hard I try, I cannot wrap my tongue around intuitive using my mother's pronunciation of ui - it's impossible to combine with the preceding t! Never paid so much attention to the oral mechanics ... of pronunciation .
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