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#24428 03/23/01 02:52 PM
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What a sweet lot you-all are. Now, this jaded old cynic took one look at the post and said to isself: "another git posting religious stuff in a vain belief that merely saying the words has some sort of convertative meaning.." I am convinced there are hoards of simple-minded souls out there with the same attitude to web boards that the Gideon Fellowship has to sad motel rooms.

Now, I will stand here to be shot down. But don't hold your breath for this poster's name to appear again....


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"Now, I will stand here to be shot down. But don't hold your breath for this poster's name to appear again...."

Dear Mav,

I'd love to shoot you down, but I'm sure I know what you're talking about. Who's lost*, me or you? :)

(*and just to beat you to it, 'lost the meaning' not 'lost the Way.' :) )

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"another git posting religious stuff in a vain belief that merely saying the words has some sort of convertative meaning.."

Sorry to raise your hackles, maverick.
It was not my intention.
I posted as "I prefer to believe" with no intent to convert anyone.
I also prefer to believe that "if you ain't tried it, don't knock it."
I also prefer to accede to the verity of a saying dear old Grandad had :

"There's so much bad in the best of us,
And so much good in the worst of us,
It ill behoves any of us to speak ill of the rest of us."
wow



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Jackie, I hate to be the comma police that hauls you in, but you can't put a comma there. What you've made is an egregious sentence fragment, and the post-comma conjunction implies that there are two wholly realized thoughts that are being linked together. Hmmm... I'm not saying this well at all. My 8th grade English teacher shamed me publicly by calling me "comma happy", and she made me learn all the arcania of comma-radery (or maybe it was comma-nism). The only way a comma would be grammatically correct is if there were a subject on the other side of the conjunction, a la: "...our Creator has entered into our hearts, and She lives in a way..." Gratuitous feminism alert

I'm fully in accordance with your analysis, though J. It was only through your keen observation that I was swayed ~ I initially was completely convinced it had to be a verb!


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hackles

Please don't misunderstand my somewhat elided meaning here, wow. It is not the poster's stance/interest/view on matters religious that even interests me. What the word 'git' related to was the supposition that this was the flying post syndrome - drop a commercial message into an essentially 'private' conversation. It's that I REALLY object to - not whether it is dogfood or godfood that is being advertised

It's the intellectual contempt that raises my hackles. I have little but respect for anyone else's views of what makes this world bearable, howsoever those views may differ to my own. I have nothing but love for an honest view expressed with probity.

Gratuitous feminism

tautology alert!




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I agree that it's a noun; but, it certainly could be a verb. Interestingly, if it were a verb, its pronunciation would change from long 'i' to short (how many other words do this? -- a challenge to everyone). As to its ambiguity, I disagree with those who sound disapproving; the ambiguity may have been intentional, and it adds interest to a statement which is otherwise very commonplace almost to the point of being banal.


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it's open to personal interpretation, like most "big book" statements; and as byb hints, when read aloud we're at the mercy of the reader.


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Hi,

Believe me I was not trying to sneak one in for the Lord. I am trying to settle an argument over this phrase "hearts and lives" that has been going on within my AA group for some time. I believe that the word " lives" here is used as a noun. It's a tough ambiguous sentence I know, but I'm looking for the best use of the word. I want to thank you all for responding. HS


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HEY MAV........... pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt




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(way to go, mav, you flushed him ; )


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