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#23563 - 03/19/01 04:33 AM Ignoral
shanks old hand Registered: 03/16/00 Posts: 1004 Loc: London, UK	A politician, quoted in the good ol' Grauniad on Saturday, spoke of some MPs receiving an 'ignoral' from the Ministry of Defence. Having LIU'd (quick google search), it appears to have been a favourite term of a former (as in 'late') political figure called George Brown. But it isn't in the dictionary. The awful thing is that I think it should be there. I think the world needs a word that represents the noun form of the verb 'to ignore'. Ignorance, alas, is already taken. I would have voted for 'ignoration' myself, but since ignoral has already been coined... What say the Ayleurs about this coinage? Perhaps more importantly, can the collective erudition of this group come up with a 'legitimate' word that already fulfils this purpose? cheer the sunshine warrior
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#23564 - 03/19/01 05:03 AM Re: Ignoral
belligerentyouth old hand Registered: 12/20/00 Posts: 1055 Loc: Berlin	It sounds like a mixture between a 'referral' and 'ignore' to me. What would the antonym be, a reply or attention/notice? Would you define it as an evasive letter or perhaps a refusal? (Come to think of it, it doesn't make much sense that one can receive an ignoral; by receiving something you have not been ignored)
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#23565 - 03/19/01 05:06 AM Re: Ignoral
nemo newbie Registered: 12/22/00 Posts: 46 Loc: Tol Eressëa	I have nothing to offer but my support. If Maverick can coin a word (malaquote) that gets the thumbs up from NicholasW, I'm sure he could coin something suitable for this need.
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#23566 - 03/19/01 06:53 AM Re: Ignoral
Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11578 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky	What about ignoring? The MPs received an ignoring from the Minister of Defence.
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#23567 - 03/19/01 09:27 AM Re: Ignoral
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10463 Loc: this too shall pass	you could, I suppose, just noun the verb. was he snubbed? he received a snub. was he rebuffed? he received a rebuff. was he slighted? spurned? disregarded? etc? no, he was the victim of an ignore.
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#23568 - 03/19/01 10:12 AM Re: Ignoral
wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858	Since the beaurocrats ignore anybody who lacks clout, I think the word "ignoral" describes one of their favorite prerogatives and is a suitable word to point that out.
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#23569 - 03/19/01 10:42 AM Re: Ignoral
maverick Carpal Tunnel Registered: 09/15/00 Posts: 4757	How about a new verb: to bliss like to diss, but meaning to serve up a pointed heap of ignorance? If so, then the recipient would be blissed, and the bliss-er would be a blister
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#23570 - 03/19/01 10:45 AM Re: Ignoral
wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858	A blister on the posterior of progress.
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#23571 - 03/20/01 03:19 AM Ignoration
NicholasW enthusiast Registered: 12/18/00 Posts: 393 Loc: London	'Ignoration' does exist, or at least can be found in your better-stocked antiquarian dictionary, but I've never seen it used. It's an Englishing of a technical term in philosophy, which only occurs in ignoratio elenchi, which is the fallacy of "ignoring the question" (or "ignorance of the issue"), i.e. arguing for something other than what you're supposed to be arguing for. That said, 'ignoral' seems a reasonable coining, on the analogy of 'referral'.
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#23572 - 03/20/01 04:40 AM That settles it!
shanks old hand Registered: 03/16/00 Posts: 1004 Loc: London, UK	If ol' Nick approves of it... In any case, since there doesn't seem to be an extant word fulfilling the requirement, and since there are precedents for ignoral's use, I shall adopt it forthwith. Aenigma, can you hear me? cheer the sunshine warrior
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