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#2233 - 05/12/00 02:09 AM To "Make Hay"
pieman stranger Registered: 04/27/00 Posts: 20	Hello All, I came across this phrase in The Professor and the Madman: "The british papers, always eager to vent editorial spleen on their transatlantic rivals made hay with this particular aspect of the story." What does it mean "to make hay" and where'd the phrase come from? ~ pieman
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#2234 - 05/12/00 03:26 AM Re: To "Make Hay"
jmh Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 1981	Ah that's easy - the expression is "make hay while the sun shines" - ie. make the most of whatever is coming your way, whether it be sunshine, money, good health ... Origin: I'm sure someone knows better but I would think it has an agricultural literal origin.
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#2235 - 05/12/00 07:58 AM Re: To "Make Hay"
Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11578 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky	Yes indeed, Jo, it has an agricultural origin. Speaking as a resident of a state full of farmland, plus personal experience on my uncle's farm in Tennessee, I can tell you that the farmer has to get the hay harvested and into the barn while it is completely dry. If it gets wet. in will simply rot and be no good for feed or even stall floor covering.
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#2236 - 05/12/00 09:33 AM Re: To "Make Hay"
Philip Davis journeyman Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 81	In pre-industrial Britain hay was stored in the field in haystacks (of 'needle in a' fame) These were not simply piles of hay but carefully constructed stacks with a thatched roof to keep the content dry and often built on platforms to keep them off the ground. Barns were used exclusively for the storage of corn (corn is a term originally meaning any grain though modern use restricts it to maize, which is not much grown in britain). The american barn appears to be a general store for lots of farm produce, equipment and livestock whereas the british barn was a careful designed building where harvested corn was stored on one side of the building, between two large opposing doors was a threshing floor where the grain was threshed from the corn (the breeze between the doors being used to winnow the chaff away) and the straw then being stored on the other side of the barn. Cattle were kept over winter in a cowhouse, sometimes called a byre, often attached or close to the straw side of the barn. It's worth noting that hay is a separate crop and is an animal feedstuff, whereas straw is a byproduct of grain cultivation and is used for animal bedding. About as interesting as duct tape then.
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#2237 - 05/12/00 02:48 PM Re: To "Make Hay"
jmh Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 1981	And can you describe the roof? Amazing how all these threads link up isn't it.
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#2238 - 05/13/00 07:39 AM Re: To "Make Hay"
paulb addict Registered: 03/17/00 Posts: 460 Loc: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia	Brewer also has the phrase "to make hay of something": to disorganise and throw things into confusion and disorder. Before the days of the haybaler, it was tossed around with a pitchfork before being gathered in.
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#2239 - 05/13/00 12:33 PM Re: To "Make Hay"
Philip Davis journeyman Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 81	Jo asked "And can you describe the roof?" It the noise Jonathen Ross's dog makes.
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#2240 - 05/13/00 01:01 PM Re: To "Make Hay"
Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11578 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky	Cute, Philip! Who is Jonathen Ross? Jo, he said 'thatched' roof--I presume with STRAW, not HAY. Wonder if it's a mansard, or what?? ;-)
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#2241 - 05/13/00 01:32 PM Re: To "Make Hay"
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10463 Loc: this too shall pass	>Wonder if it's a mansard... if a female contractor installs a mansard roof do we have a feminist/semantics problem? http://members.aol.com/tsuwm/
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#2242 - 05/13/00 01:42 PM Re: To "Make Hay"
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10463 Loc: this too shall pass	"And can you describe the roof?" >It the noise Jonathen Ross's dog makes. oh you wascal; that's a *weally obscure 'cultural' weference. http://members.aol.com/tsuwm/
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