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#209076 - 01/15/13 10:53 PM Determinism
Jackie Offline

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Exactly what is this, please?

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#209078 - 01/15/13 11:32 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie]
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A fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism.

but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...?
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#209079 - 01/16/13 02:35 AM Re: Determinism [Re: maverick]
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Originally Posted By: maverick
A fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism.

but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...?
wink


Ah but remember, Maverick, you only think in terms of a purposeless existence.
But Lo, with the Big Bang came purpose.

We might not know our purpose. How could we? We are only deterministic.

But think about it. Whatever the Big Bang was all about... that is our purpose. cool

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#209087 - 01/16/13 12:32 PM Re: Determinism [Re: jenny jenny]
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Fatalism?
Can you be more specific, please.


Edited by LukeJavan8 (01/16/13 12:33 PM)
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#209090 - 01/16/13 01:19 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie]
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#209091 - 01/16/13 01:31 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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I see. Thanks. Some study is needed on my part. Appreciate it.
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#209092 - 01/16/13 02:44 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Originally Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu


see esp. fatalism for a contrast of determinism, fatalism and predeterminism.

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#209094 - 01/16/13 04:56 PM Re: the preterite & the elect [Re: tsuwm]
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#209098 - 01/16/13 07:21 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie]
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"Determinism often is taken to mean simply causal determinism, which in physics is the idea known as cause-and-effect. It is the concept that events within a given paradigm are bound by causality in such a way that any state (of an object or event) is completely determined by prior states."

My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right.




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#209099 - 01/16/13 07:51 PM Re: Determinism [Re: BranShea]
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Originally Posted By: BranShea


My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right.





The only problem is that we will never know all the data about anything.

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