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#208123 - 11/26/12 11:37 PM Kilting party
Jackie Offline

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My son is going to be wearing a kilt to be in a friend's wedding (oh, this is going to be SO photo-worthy!).
How did a kilt come to be called that, please?

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#208125 - 11/27/12 01:35 AM Re: Kilting party [Re: Jackie]
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It's from a verb in Middle English kilten 'to tuck up'. It's from Scandinavian, Old Icelandic.
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#208129 - 11/27/12 08:10 AM Re: Kilting party [Re: zmjezhd]
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Then to tuck up your kilt would be a redundancy?. Any relation between quilt and kilt?

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#208130 - 11/27/12 09:12 AM Re: Kilting party [Re: BranShea]
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Quilt comes ultimately from Latin culcita, 'mattress'.

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#208135 - 11/27/12 12:33 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: Jackie]
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To tuck up must be akin to the biblical "to gird one's loins".
The long robes worn in that era would prevent haste, thus
to pick up the hems of the robe and tuck them in to the
belt to free the lower legs from obstruction so movement
could be quicker.
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#208136 - 11/27/12 01:03 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: LukeJavan8]
zmjezhd Offline
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"to gird one's loins".

Gird (< ME girden < OE gyrdan 'to gird, bind round; L. cingere') is related to girdle. The concept behind girding is to encircle or put on a belt. Loins weren't the only things being girded in the Old Testament: cf. Lev VIII.7. And he put upon him the coat, and girded him with the girdle, and clothed him with the robe, and put the ephod upon him, and he girded him with the curious girdle of the ephod, and bound [it] unto him therewith.
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#208137 - 11/27/12 01:05 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: BranShea]
zmjezhd Offline
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Any relation between quilt and kilt?

Nope (see Faldo's reply for etymology) just a happy coincidence.
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#208141 - 11/27/12 01:56 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: zmjezhd]
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Thanks for the research.
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#208188 - 12/01/12 12:35 AM Re: Kilting party [Re: Jackie]
Jackie Offline

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Thanks, all! zmjezhd, I was going to ask you what men who wear a kilt are tucking up, but I reckon Luke answered that.

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#208562 - 12/31/12 12:28 PM Re: Kilting party [Re: zmjezhd]
maverick Offline
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> put the ephod upon him

Yes, very curious - since I gather this word comes from the Hebrew meaning 'to put on', it looks suspiciously like a translation error, doesn't it?

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