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#207454 - 10/01/12 12:16 AM Whats the word??
marek0086 Offline
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Hi there. Im looking for the word that means "unconditional/unquestioning loyalty/favoritism".

I'v heard this word before.... but i cant remember what it is!... and i cant seem to find it anywhere.

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#207455 - 10/01/12 04:36 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
Candy Offline
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Hi marek.... my suggestion is, SYCOPHANT but some of the others could have a better idea.

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#207463 - 10/01/12 10:29 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Candy]
LukeJavan8 Offline
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welcome Marek
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#207468 - 10/01/12 11:49 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: LukeJavan8]
Rhubarb Commando Offline
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welcome marek:
Perhaps you are looking for "claquer" - literally someone who is hired to applaud a performance, however bad or good it is. The meaning can easily be widened to include a group of sycophants, toadies, flatterers, etc.
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#207470 - 10/01/12 12:34 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
tsuwm Offline
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I just happen to have this file..

minions..

toady
toadeater
tufthunter (Brit.)
snurge (Brit.)
lickspittle
minion
lackey
limberham (fig.)
backslapper
clawback (obs.)
apple-polisher
yes-man
stooge
myrmidon
follower
pushover
bootlicker
brownnoser
groveler
flatterer
kowtower
fawner
flatterer
flunky
groupie(s)
*sycophant
truckler
ass-kisser
arse-licker (Brit.)
suck-up
doormat
doter
fawner
henchman
hanger-on
trencherman
edit:
gnatho
shammes

(groups)
mob
posse
entourage
retainers
retinue
*claque

(adjs)
gnathonic
obsequious (and synonyms)
unctuous
ingratiating


Edited by tsuwm (10/01/12 12:51 PM)

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#207473 - 10/01/12 06:49 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
Candy Offline
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What a list...most are unflattering terms, I guess its not a good place to be. (unless, as Rhuby word...one got paid for the position).

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#207477 - 10/01/12 11:35 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: tsuwm]
jenny jenny Offline
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Y'all keep knocking.

I wish to create (or find) a word that delimits the vile collaboration of professional social in-groups to the abject detriment of the rest of us.
You know, vile people like vile lawyers, vile doctors, and vile Indian chiefs.
Those vile folk have Unions without Unions.

Hmm... maybe some variant of sycophant or claque or mutual masturbation will suffice.



Edited by jenny jenny (10/02/12 12:09 AM)

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#207479 - 10/02/12 08:06 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
Faldage Offline
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All the answers seem to have been treating this as a bad thing. This when loyalty is seen as a good thing. Anybody got any positive words for this?

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#207480 - 10/02/12 10:06 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Faldage]
tsuwm Offline
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but isn't the proffered definition itself shaded a bit negatively - "unconditional/unquestioning loyalty/favoritism" - unless you're a Pollyanna? loyalty may be seen as a good thing, but unconditional or unquestioning, not so much.

even boosters and fans have gotten bad reps!

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#207481 - 10/02/12 10:19 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
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Not if you have faith in the object of your unquestioning loyalty.

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#207482 - 10/02/12 10:59 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Faldage]
tsuwm Offline
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ah.. blind faith, cf. fideist.

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#207487 - 10/02/12 06:54 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
Faldage Offline
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Not necessarily blind faith. It could be based on a good knowledge of the reliability of the object of the faith.

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#207488 - 10/02/12 10:20 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
Avy Offline
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Can I sneak in another "what's the word" question? I read a single word that means "people's hatred", which I have now forgotten. The context was "Politicians have to be able to have a high degree of acceptance of *people's hatred*."

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#207490 - 10/03/12 10:13 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Avy]
jenny jenny Offline
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Hurry Avy! Remember that word. Obama and Romney debate tonight.
We can Twitter your forgotten word. It will go Internet viral. smile

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#207529 - 10/06/12 04:03 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
marek0086 Offline
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Im not looking for the name of a PERSON who shows "unquestioning/unconditional loyalty/favoritism". Im looking for the word that DESCRIBES "unquestioning/unconditional loyalty/favoritism" itself. And its a NEGATIVE connotation.

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#207534 - 10/06/12 11:38 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
jenny jenny Offline
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Well 0086, do you remember the context of your forgotten word's usage?
Me? I like "claque". As a condition that would be "claqueness".
smile

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#207536 - 10/06/12 02:30 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
tsuwm Offline
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from previous list:

(adjs)
gnathonic
obsequious (and synonyms)
unctuous
ingratiating

so, from thesaurus.com
obsequious
Definition: groveling, submissive
Synonyms: abject, beggarly, brownnosing, complacent, compliable, compliant, cringing, crouching, deferential, enslaved, fawning, flattering, ingratiating, kowtowing, menial, obeisant, oily, parasitic, parasitical, prostrate, respectful, servile, slavish, sneaking, sniveling, spineless, stipendiary, subject, submissive, subordinate, subservient, toadying, unctuous

(also, from fawning)
adulatory, bootlicking, bowing, cowering, crawling, humble, mealy-mouthed, scraping

and, from me:
meeching
oleaginous
smarmy [crossthreading!]
sequacious
sycophantic, sycophantical, sycophantish

FYI
meeching
Now regional (chiefly New England)
skulking, furtive; mean, cheap, contemptible; poor, obsequious

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#207540 - 10/06/12 03:28 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
BranShea Offline
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The Uriah Heep kind of obsequiousness? Yes, the idea of a context might help.

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#207548 - 10/06/12 11:56 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: tsuwm]
Avy Offline
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How 'bout another one: "just not worth the effort?"
... I mean when the stomach has sucessfully made the trip to iceland who in their right minds will compete with such perfection?
PS: Am I on the wrong thread? I think I'm on the wrong board! This isn't weight watchers anonymous? Shudda taken the left toin for that one! Sorry!


Edited by Avy (10/07/12 01:12 AM)

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#207590 - 10/10/12 12:53 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Avy]
BranShea Offline
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"Politicians have to be able to have a high degree of acceptance of"...... ehmm......bribes?


Edited by BranShea (10/10/12 01:07 PM)

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#207603 - 10/11/12 07:07 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
Candy Offline
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Originally Posted By: marek0086
Im looking for the word that DESCRIBES "unquestioning/unconditional loyalty/favoritism" itself. And its a NEGATIVE connotation.


Not one word but... 'Extreme Patriotism' has this negative behaviour!

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#207616 - 10/11/12 02:46 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Candy]
Rhubarb Commando Offline
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Following that line, "Jingoism" is a word used in the UK to express that.
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#207653 - 10/14/12 07:58 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
Candy Offline
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'Jingoism' a wonderful word. I just LIU

A very British word. Of course I had heard the oath 'by jingo' but had not connected it. And its link to the French word 'Chauvinism'
.... that of malice to a particular group.

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#208090 - 11/23/12 12:08 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Avy]
Avy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Avy
Can I sneak in another "what's the word" question? I read a single word that means "people's hatred", which I have now forgotten. The context was "Politicians have to be able to have a high degree of acceptance of *people's hatred*."


I had posted this a while ago. Well I found the word I was looking for. I thought I would share it. The quote is "To be able to endure odium is the first art to be learned by those who aspire to power. Seneca"

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#208092 - 11/23/12 07:24 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: Avy]
BranShea Offline
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Good of you to come back with this word. Odium. I think I will make it a loan word, unless the owners of English will only lend it against a high interest rate. smile (such are the days) frown

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#208093 - 11/23/12 09:10 PM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: BranShea]
jenny jenny Offline
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How about an even trade, Lowlander? smile You take our word "odium" and we take your word "hatelijk"?
We English will readily admit that your word has more bite. shocked

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#208094 - 11/24/12 04:19 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: jenny jenny]
BranShea Offline
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A fair and generous exchange.

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#208187 - 12/01/12 12:31 AM Re: Whats the word?? [Re: marek0086]
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Adoration; adulation; Charles's friend (see other thread).

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