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#207381 - 09/27/12 09:32 AM ameliorate
jeff sedlak Offline
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There is another specific use of this term in wine making. It means adding water and sugar to the grape juice before it is fermented. This has two affects; in high acid juice, it 'makes it better' by diluting the acid. The second is to 'stretch the juice and make more wine (inferior because the taste is diluted too) out of limited juice.
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#207382 - 09/27/12 10:26 AM Re: ameliorate [Re: jeff sedlak]
BranShea Offline
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This amelioration is also practised in other food branches. In factory produced bread they add an ameliorator consisting of extra yeast, gluten, milk powder, fats, an amino acid 'cystine' made from pigs hear (pardons, hair) and preservatives. I've seen the stuff as a yellow buttery matter. Keeps the bread supple and so called fresh, but spunkless.
Just like in wine, you might consider the ameliorator a detoriorator.

welcome


Edited by BranShea (09/28/12 08:01 AM)
Edit Reason: hear to hair

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#207383 - 09/27/12 12:28 PM Re: ameliorate [Re: jeff sedlak]
LukeJavan8 Offline
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Originally Posted By: jeff sedlak
There is another specific use of this term in wine making. It means adding water and sugar to the grape juice before it is fermented. This has two affects; in high acid juice, it 'makes it better' by diluting the acid. The second is to 'stretch the juice and make more wine (inferior because the taste is diluted too) out of limited juice.
jeff sedlak



Welcome Jeff
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#207384 - 09/27/12 01:10 PM Re: ameliorate [Re: LukeJavan8]
BranShea Offline
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"Welcome Jeff "

As already mentioned ( without the Jeff but with the same intention)

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#207385 - 09/27/12 01:13 PM Re: ameliorate [Re: BranShea]
LukeJavan8 Offline
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And do you have a monopoly on welcoming new people?
Your arrogance is improving.
I've been welcoming people since I first joined.
Sorry if it upsets you, but you can put me on
ignore.
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#207386 - 09/27/12 02:02 PM Re: ameliorate [Re: LukeJavan8]
BranShea Offline
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I just see no point in repetitions Luke. I'll leave it to you if that's what you like.

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#207399 - 09/28/12 07:15 AM Re: ameliorate [Re: BranShea]
Rhubarb Commando Offline
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Now, now children! Play nicely together, or you shall have no biscuits!
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#207402 - 09/28/12 09:27 AM Re: ameliorate [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
BranShea Offline
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Could I swap your biscuit with a glass of untampered with wine and a piece of clean bread please?

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#207403 - 09/28/12 11:41 AM Re: ameliorate [Re: BranShea]
LukeJavan8 Offline
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Originally Posted By: BranShea
I just see no point in repetitions Luke. I'll leave it to you if that's what you like.



You know what they say about opinions?
Like I'm the first one to do it? Several times many people
welcome a new poster. You mind your business, I'll mind mine.


Edited by LukeJavan8 (09/28/12 11:42 AM)
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#207404 - 09/28/12 11:43 AM Re: ameliorate [Re: BranShea]
jenny jenny Offline
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cry Wah! I played nicely and I didn't get no biscuit. All I got was this damn cookie made with hog hair. Gimmie my football I'm going home. frown

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