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#205970 - 06/04/12 10:47 PM Plummy
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From an article: ...speaking in their own local accents instead of the plummy English known among academics as Received Pronunciation.
Why "Received Pronunciation", and, especially, why "plummy"?

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#205976 - 06/05/12 12:02 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_pronunciation

plummy 1resembling a plum: cosy reds and plummy blues

2British informal (of a personís voice) having an accent thought typical of the English upper classes: a plummy voice rich with haughty disdain

3British informal choice; highly desirable: there are some plummy roles for the taking here
[Compact Oxford Dict.]

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#205979 - 06/05/12 12:54 AM Re: Plummy [Re: tsuwm]
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Recieved Pronounciation

Standard british English, Think BBC1

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#205980 - 06/05/12 06:34 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
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Received Pronunciation

If not Jackie's question, at least mine, is not what it means but why call it Received?

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#205981 - 06/05/12 06:39 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
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Not to mention what is it about plums? They're kinda shaped like pears and when something goes all pear shaped it's not a good thing.

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#205983 - 06/05/12 08:48 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]
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? plums are pretty much round, at least here in flyover land. if they've gone pear-shaped, they're probly not too good for eating.

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#205984 - 06/05/12 08:49 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
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But if your tones go all pear-shaped that's a good thing, right?

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#205985 - 06/05/12 09:13 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]
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evidently going pear-shaped is different to having pear-shaped tones. the word detective ties the former phrase to the Royal Air Force, where learning to fly apparently includes doing acrobatic loops. Difficult for even an experienced pilot, these loops as performed by a novice are more than likely to appear lopsided and "pear-shaped." One can imagine observers on the ground saying, "Good. Good. Oh rats, he's gone all pear-shaped."

it's somewhat of a contranymic phrase, what?

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#205986 - 06/05/12 11:27 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]
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If not Jackie's question, at least mine, is not what it means but why call it Received?

In polite and plummy English Received here means: Accepted by General agreement and/or in spite of General Disagreement.

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#206031 - 06/08/12 10:02 PM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
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Ah. Merci. wink Faldage got my meaning perzactly. And, who is General Disagreement? He sounds rather a shady character.

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