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#205970 - 06/04/12 10:47 PM Plummy
Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11578 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky	From an article: ...speaking in their own local accents instead of the plummy English known among academics as Received Pronunciation. Why "Received Pronunciation", and, especially, why "plummy"?
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#205976 - 06/05/12 12:02 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10463 Loc: this too shall pass	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_pronunciation plummy 1resembling a plum: cosy reds and plummy blues 2British informal (of a person’s voice) having an accent thought typical of the English upper classes: a plummy voice rich with haughty disdain 3British informal choice; highly desirable: there are some plummy roles for the taking here [Compact Oxford Dict.]
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#205979 - 06/05/12 12:54 AM Re: Plummy [Re: tsuwm]
olly old hand Registered: 12/18/06 Posts: 932 Loc: Auckland, New Zealand	Recieved Pronounciation Standard british English, Think BBC1
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#205980 - 06/05/12 06:34 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13653	Received Pronunciation If not Jackie's question, at least mine, is not what it means but why call it Received?
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#205981 - 06/05/12 06:39 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13653	Not to mention what is it about plums? They're kinda shaped like pears and when something goes all pear shaped it's not a good thing.
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#205983 - 06/05/12 08:48 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10463 Loc: this too shall pass	? plums are pretty much round, at least here in flyover land. if they've gone pear-shaped, they're probly not too good for eating.
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#205984 - 06/05/12 08:49 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13653	But if your tones go all pear-shaped that's a good thing, right?
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#205985 - 06/05/12 09:13 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10463 Loc: this too shall pass	evidently going pear-shaped is different to having pear-shaped tones. the word detective ties the former phrase to the Royal Air Force, where learning to fly apparently includes doing acrobatic loops. Difficult for even an experienced pilot, these loops as performed by a novice are more than likely to appear lopsided and "pear-shaped." One can imagine observers on the ground saying, "Good. Good. Oh rats, he's gone all pear-shaped." it's somewhat of a contranymic phrase, what?
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#205986 - 06/05/12 11:27 AM Re: Plummy [Re: Faldage]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5248 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	If not Jackie's question, at least mine, is not what it means but why call it Received? In polite and plummy English Received here means: Accepted by General agreement and/or in spite of General Disagreement.
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#206031 - 06/08/12 10:02 PM Re: Plummy [Re: Jackie]
Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11578 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky	Ah. Merci. Faldage got my meaning perzactly. And, who is General Disagreement? He sounds rather a shady character.
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